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re: Comparison between Daniels and Burrows first 5 games as a Tiger

Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12898 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:36 am to
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Joe had very limited snaps at Ohio State.

JD was a 3-year starter at Arizona State.

do you know any of arizona state's recent history at all?

they just announced that their assistant coaches were giving their opponents the game plan before the game in order to get the head coach fired. the same head coach that you think was doing a great job coaching JD for the past 3 years.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13164 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:36 am to
He has had more than 30 games. Do you just not get this?

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13164 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:38 am to
How many starts had Burrow had by his fifth game at LSU? Your comparison is asinine. Jiminy Cricket...

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13164 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:39 am to
Beefense wrong as usual. What does hate have to do with this. JD5 cannot play QB. That's all. Tiger Nation is again dismayed that we have NO competent QB play. What is not to understand about that?

Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
22864 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:43 am to
Compare Daniels to Quittin Brennan

Quittin Brennan was 1-2 in SEC play and Daniels is 2-0
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
24435 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:43 am to
If that's how Burrow looks after 5 games in a new system in his 4th year, there is no way he is going to improve. Bench him now. Better to start the less talented backup and plan for the future, because backups can always improve, but not QBs that win the starting job. Duh.
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:00 am to
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Corinthians420

jrodLSUke




These two have got thier Forrest Daniels goggles on real tight.

The better Quarterback comparison to Joe Burrow is Garret Nussmeier but, don't let your ignorance get in the way of reality.

Forrest Daniels is Forrest Daniels is Forrest Daniels.

He is who he is.






Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
24435 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:06 am to
We can only explain it to you so many times; we can't understand it for you.

The point of the OP is not to compare JB's ceiling to JD's potential. The point is that both QBs were starting off in a new offense, and you can't always determine how much the new QB will progress in a new system with only 5 games under their belts.

If JB had started his first 5 games with OSU, his numbers would have been much better.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:40 am to
Eh, it's a lot more than that. Anyone with eyes could see Burrow just needed to clean his game up when we watched him. You could see things like he actually saw the field really well with his time here. Burrow never started before going to LSU. His problem was small things like getting into a rhythm or learning how to read a defense better. Chemistry and timing. That's why by the end of the season Burrow put up some crazy numbers that was bonkers. Something like 800-1000 yards in his last 3 games with tons of TDs.

JD has things about him that he should've learned in high school. There's simply no way LSU is going to develop this guy this year. He can gradually make baby steps of getting better but he's far more raw than Burrow ever was in throwing. What you see here now is how he was at Arizona. I mean it's really not hard to see. Yes, he's talented and a gifted runner but he is what he is. Maybe next year if he stays we can see some big progression from him. Personally, I have doubts a guy in what, how many games in as starter is ever going to develop his passing game to be meaningful if he hasn't done it already. He has regressed as competition has went up which not coincidentally he did the same at his previous stop. That signifies he does not develop he sticks to old habits and defense figures him out.

I'd get an elite QB and not look back if one presents itself in portal. He seems like a really good guy but it is what it is. LSU may be forced to run a 2 QB system if he doesn't start showing progression.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:48 am
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:44 am to
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jrodLSUke




Ok.

Forrest Daniels is going to Forrest Daniels on Saturday because it's what Forrest Daniels does.

Hoping LSU wins despite Forrest Daniels fear of throwing an interception.








Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15538 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:50 am to
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but they can still be a very good college QB with time to improve


By week 6 six you kind of are who you are. Daniels may throw some balls he would have held on to previously but there won't be some amzing improvement. This is also a situation where just looking at numbers doesnt tell the whole story.

He may have better numbers going forward since there will be an emphasis to throw those contested balls but he will still not see open players and he will still have accuracy issues. With that said he will still compete and win some games.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:56 am
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1139 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:51 am to
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You can’t compare the two


Yes you can. Op just did
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29215 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:51 am to
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Unless you start a thread dogging JD, you will be met with resistance on here. This board hates the guy like he did something personal to them


Nah, just that our passing offense between Denbrock, Daniels, and the WRs/TEs/RBs ain't acceptable or sustainable, and that's with a much improved OL vs. Week 1. Probably all 3 of those people/groups are to blame and all 3 need to improve significantly.

Some are trying to make it a race thing to own the MAGAs and are whining at any sign of criticism for a guy that threw for about 4 YPA against AU.

Everyone should recognize this is a transition year, but it's not unreasonable to find the passing offense frustrating and a concern as LSU is about to enter a meatgrinder the next 4 games.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6145 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:53 am to
Huge difference ——Joe’s first five games were literally his first 5 as a starter and his first snaps in over a year. Daniel’s has three years under his belt and over 25 starts.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40415 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:54 am to
So we riding?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9560 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Comparison between Daniels and Burrows first 5 games as a Tiger


Stats are fine, but compare their moxie.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13237 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:24 am to
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Huge difference ——Joe’s first five games were literally his first 5 as a starter and his first snaps in over a year. Daniel’s has three years under his belt and over 25 starts.



There is another bigger difference.
Name the starting receivers in 2018 vs the receivers in 2022.
2019 is more comparable to 2022 in regards to WR talent.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12898 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:27 am to
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2019 is more comparable to 2022 in regards to WR talent.

Dude pump the brakes a little bit. 2019 had 2 of the top 5 wrs in the NFL

You cant compare Boutte and Nabers to them at this point.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9586 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:30 am to
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He’s started in damn near 40 games.


Comparing a guy with 5 starts to a guy with "damn near 40" is not the same
Posted by LSU_connoisseur
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2022
795 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:32 am to
I'll give you that. I don't think ASU helped in his development at all.
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