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College Offense has changed

Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted by TigerCrude
Member since Oct 2019
1878 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:53 pm
Defenses will have to have to adjust. Coaches will have to be more creative to stop the new age offenses. Other wise we will end up with all games looking like Big 10 games.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
9473 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:00 pm to
This is old news. College offense has been changed for years now. The SEC was one of the last to transition. None of the other conferences have really made an adjustment on defense, outside of a handful of teams. The SEC, as a whole, has figured out how to handle the other conferences' offenses and it's mainly just out-athleting them. It will be harder for the SEC to figure out how to handle those offenses within the conference, with much better athletes to account for. The SEC is going to be unstoppable for most teams outside of the conference now.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75206 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:07 pm to
Just funny that not even 5 years ago a ton of SEC fans would always rely on "but we play defense." Nowadays it’s like the SEC and Big 12 are one in the same.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12897 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:08 pm to
Here's the question (because you are right):

Do defenses need to be "complimentary" to the offense OR do you try to "stop them"?

The reason this is a real question is because:

A) Complimentary = keep everything in front of you, don't give up plays in between the 25's, very aggressive inside the 25's.

B) Stop Them = risk taking to try and get them behind the chains, any spot on the field.

With (A), assuming your offense is very good, you are actually having some control of the game.

With (B) you might end up in a true shootout where you still have some, but less, control.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15803 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:19 pm to
It has been changed for a while now
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9359 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

The SEC was one of the last to transition.

I think it’s more accurate to say that Alabama, LSU, and (maybe eventually) UGA were the last to transition. Which is crazy when you consider that Urban/Mullen won two national championships in three years at Florida.. over a decade ago.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66520 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:29 pm to
There is common thread to the elite defenses:

Dominating the LOS and elite secondaries.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:30 pm to
UF's 2 NC's (2006 and 2008) were due at least in part to great defenses.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:45 pm to
Florida was running the damn single wing with Tebow
Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
3489 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 10:10 pm to
Offenses have definitely changed, but football is still won and lost in the trenches. Win that battle and 95% of the time you win the game.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 10:19 pm to
Yeah, offenses have obviously changed. They aren't running the wing-t anymore.

That said, it doesn't mean you can't still play good defense. It's all about getting good players.

Case in point, look at last year's LSU and Auburn. LSU was stacked, offensively, at every position possible. It was arguably top-to-bottom the best offensive group you could assemble.

Auburn had a couple of great/elite tackles and some pretty good players everywhere else. LSU's box score was impressive and they put up some yards, but honestly, Auburn's defense made LSU look pretty pedestrian.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27222 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 11:25 pm to
So, basically everything elite except 2 linebackers
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26642 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:03 am to
Defenses will adjust next year. Covid caught the entire country off on the defensive side. It's a lot easier to install these simpler offenses than it is to teach players on defense what to do against them.

I'm not advocating for Pelini, I want him gone, but there is nobody in the country playing good defense. It you think you are, you haven't played a half decent offense yet.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16440 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:49 am to
quote:

I20goon


Great questions.

There are so many variables that go into engineering a defense across an entire season nowadays.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5010 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 1:39 am to
quote:

one in the same


One and the same.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4657 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 4:35 am to
quote:

I think it’s more accurate to say that Alabama, LSU, and (maybe eventually) UGA were the last to transition. Which is crazy when you consider that Urban/Mullen won two national championships in three years at Florida.. over a decade ago.


LSU is the correct answer here. Other teams were passing the ball before LSU made it a staple. For all of the offenses can't be stopped talk, you still have to have a very good to great qb.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13967 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 5:36 am to
quote:

LSU is the correct answer here.


No it isn’t. UGA and A&M still run “pro style” offenses today.
Posted by Sundance
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
445 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:12 am to
Offensive linemen are Sumo wrestlers now. They are taught holding techniques instead of blocking techniques, much to the detriment of the game!
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13626 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:47 am to
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Other wise we will end up with all games looking like Big 10 games.


This may be the strangest support for an argument I have heard in a while for college football moving offensive styles. The Big Ten actually looks more conventional that all of the other power 5 conferences. Not sure why you think Iowa, Northwestern, Minnesota and Rutgers are so wide open that other conferences should avoid looking like them.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 6:49 am
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:08 am to
The rules have changed more than offenses have. You can’t hit a qb high or low. You can’t jack a wide wr up coming across the middle. You can’t hand check a we past five yards. Cant tackle a guy buy the collar. Every penalty on defense is an automatic first down. It’s a step above flag football.

Defense used to be physical. Now they have to pull up and make sure they don’t hit a guy hard. While they are playing in quick sand, the offense can break tackles or run past guys.
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