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re: College Baseball Nation Way Too Early 2023 Baseball Rankings- LSU at #1
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:16 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:16 am to Lester Earl
A coach who “doesn’t care about defense” doesn’t start a .200 hitter at catcher, for his defense.
A coach who “doesn’t care about defense” doesn’t try several different MIF combos to try and shake out the best options.
A coach who “doesn’t care about defense” doesn’t try Berry at multiple spots before settling on the one that he’s most comfortable in.
Take your bullshite somewhere else clown.
A coach who “doesn’t care about defense” doesn’t try several different MIF combos to try and shake out the best options.
A coach who “doesn’t care about defense” doesn’t try Berry at multiple spots before settling on the one that he’s most comfortable in.
Take your bullshite somewhere else clown.
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:24 am to RB10
Yeah, id say a more accurate description would be “he overlooked the defense”.
Id be curious what they did in practice and how it was developed in the offseason.
I know they worked those kids to the bone to fix it in season, and i think it got alot better towards the end. I think it progressed because johnson did an about face mid season to get them in gear defensively. But you could see it looked bad early in the season
Id be curious what they did in practice and how it was developed in the offseason.
I know they worked those kids to the bone to fix it in season, and i think it got alot better towards the end. I think it progressed because johnson did an about face mid season to get them in gear defensively. But you could see it looked bad early in the season
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:26 am to Lester Earl
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We learned early on that there was a lack of defensive focus in just about every facet.
This is the only explanation that makes sense- why did players like Thompson who played well last year shite the bed 6 months later?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:27 am to josh336
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Yeah, id say a more accurate description would be “he overlooked the defense”.
He absolutely prioritizes bats over gloves, and that’s always going to be the case. To suggest he doesn’t care about defense is absurd though.
A coach who doesn’t care about defense starts McManus day 1 and never toys with the positions, particularly in the MIF.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:29 am to Lester Earl
So what should he have done differently? Start Safford? Bianco? Travinski?
I could maybe argue putting Gio or Bianco in left after Dugas got hurt to make the outfield marginally better defensively. Moving Doughty to 3rd might have helped, but who plays 2nd and what do you do with Berry? Sorry, I just don’t see any viable options on the roster that Johnson played a minimal role in assembling.
I could maybe argue putting Gio or Bianco in left after Dugas got hurt to make the outfield marginally better defensively. Moving Doughty to 3rd might have helped, but who plays 2nd and what do you do with Berry? Sorry, I just don’t see any viable options on the roster that Johnson played a minimal role in assembling.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:46 am to RB10
Coaching fundamentals is a proactive exercise, not a reactive one.
Switching guys around with the same foundation is futile at best.
Switching guys around with the same foundation is futile at best.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:49 am to Lester Earl
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Coaching fundamentals is a proactive exercise, not a reactive one.
And? Are you suggesting that they never practiced at all?
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Switching guys around with the same foundation is futile at best.
Trying to improve the defense is proof that the staff cared about defense.
Just own up to your ridiculous statement and move on.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:56 am to RB10
You are acting like Madking right now.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:00 am to Lester Earl
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You are acting like Madking right now.
Madqueen criticizes Johnson every chance he gets. You know, something like absurdly claiming he “doesn’t care about defense”.
Just walk back your ridiculous statement, admit you meant he prioritizes offense, and move on.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:00 am to sportsfan
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So what should he have done differently? Start Safford? Bianco? Travinski?
I could maybe argue putting Gio or Bianco in left after Dugas got hurt to make the outfield marginally better defensively. Moving Doughty to 3rd might have helped, but who plays 2nd and what do you do with Berry? Sorry, I just don’t see any viable options on the roster that Johnson played a minimal role in assembling.
It’s not about switching players around, especially since you returned 3/4 of your infield. . That’s the desperation move.
It’s about the off-season emphasis, or lack thereof, that was put on defense. I think we as LSU fans had taken for granted the defensive teams that PM rolled out. I’m sure that standard was not easy to uphold, but damn they made it look easy. I appreciate it so much more after this season,
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:01 am to RB10
He also takes rational discussions & turns them psychotic. Check yourself
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:11 am to Lester Earl
But do we really know there wasn’t any emphasis on defense in the off-season? Admittedly I didn’t attend any fall practice or scrimmages like others did. I merely followed Scuba’s updates. I don’t remember defense being an issue in those scrimmages. So what changed from then to the regular season, I guess would be the better question.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:12 am to Lester Earl
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He also takes rational discussions & turns them psychotic.
1. Spewing your “Johnson doesn’t care about defense” hot take isn’t rational discussion.
2. Pointing out your asinine statement isn’t psychotic, it’s pointing out your asinine statement.
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Check yourself
Take your hot take nonsense to another thread clown.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:13 am to sportsfan
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But do we really know there wasn’t any emphasis on defense in the off-season? Admittedly I didn’t attend any fall practice or scrimmages like others did. I merely followed Scuba’s updates. I don’t remember defense being an issue in those scrimmages. So what changed from then to the regular season, I guess would be the better question.
Spewing unfounded nonsense is part of the hot take, and the only way he can make it seem less absurd.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:15 am to dthev25
LSU wins the NC next year if they gel... There will be nearly an entire roster full of new players. Johnson's toughest job will be to make them a team.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:22 am to sportsfan
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But do we really know there wasn’t any emphasis on defense in the off-season?
What is your theory on why you only got good defense out of 2 positions(cf & 1B)
I am genuinely curious.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:30 am to Lester Earl
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What is your theory on why you only got good defense out of 2 positions(cf & 1B)
2B was a wash. Arnold fielded .937 in 2021, Doughty .936 in 2022. Dugas fielded .980 in 2022. The revolving door in LF fielded right at that this year.
Also, remember when you said Crews wasn’t a center fielder? Good times.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 11:31 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:35 am to Locoguan0
I expect LSU to be ranked top 3 if they get one or two more elite arms.
LSU may have been ranked top 10 preseason last season, but any honest LSU fan knew starting pitching was a real concern. Still LSU greatly improved from a season prior. To put into perspective LSU was only like 2 SEC wins behind national seed A&M. And that was without our typical SP.
I think defense is equally on the players and would rather have better pitching and hitting. LSU should have a far superior pitching staff next season and equal, if not better, hitting.
I don’t get the concerns when LSU appears to be upgrading all three phases. And even if they only upgrade two I would rather it be pitching and hitting.
LSU may have been ranked top 10 preseason last season, but any honest LSU fan knew starting pitching was a real concern. Still LSU greatly improved from a season prior. To put into perspective LSU was only like 2 SEC wins behind national seed A&M. And that was without our typical SP.
I think defense is equally on the players and would rather have better pitching and hitting. LSU should have a far superior pitching staff next season and equal, if not better, hitting.
I don’t get the concerns when LSU appears to be upgrading all three phases. And even if they only upgrade two I would rather it be pitching and hitting.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:53 am to Lester Earl
I honestly don’t have a theory. It’s hard to fathom that Doughty and Thompson just forgot how to play defense. But I’ll go position by position just to give my breakdown.
C - Losing Millazo goes without saying killed our defense behind the plate. Travinski was always a DH option in my mind. I never thought he was much of a defender. McManus honestly wasn’t terrible, but always seemed to have lapses in concentration in key moments. Again, when he was brought in, I think he was an offensive upgrade at the position when offense was needed. But the job was always going to be Millazo’s.
1B - probably an unpopular opinion, but TM missed a lot of picks he routinely made last year. His flare and quickness is unmatched, but a lot of the errors he saved last year didn’t happen this year.
2B - I personally hated Doughty there and always thought he was more comfortable at 3rd. He looked uncomfortable sitting back on balls rather than just reacting and being an athlete at the hot corner.
3B - Berry actually settled in to be serviceable before he got hurt. And he’s obviously a bat you can’t take out of the lineup.
SS - Just awful, no other way to describe it. I do remember Johnson praising his defense in the off-season, so maybe he just didn’t foresee what it would look like in the regular season.
LF - Dugas was never a terrible fielder. His injury started the revolving door and no one seemed to want to take the job.
CF - Crews actually looked uncomfortable initially in CF. Then the light turned on for him and he turned into Jim Edmonds out there.
RF - Gio was a solid option out there initially until his bat went completely dead. Pearson was definitely an offense over defense kind of move.
I honestly think Jobert made things more difficult for JJ to find the best defensive lineup. When Jobert was hot, there was no one better and JJ just didn’t want to take him out the lineup.
In case this is TLDR; my theory is I have no effing clue why the defense was so bad. But I find it hard to believe that a coach and program of this caliber didn’t practice defense in the off-season (even is offense was emphasized more).
C - Losing Millazo goes without saying killed our defense behind the plate. Travinski was always a DH option in my mind. I never thought he was much of a defender. McManus honestly wasn’t terrible, but always seemed to have lapses in concentration in key moments. Again, when he was brought in, I think he was an offensive upgrade at the position when offense was needed. But the job was always going to be Millazo’s.
1B - probably an unpopular opinion, but TM missed a lot of picks he routinely made last year. His flare and quickness is unmatched, but a lot of the errors he saved last year didn’t happen this year.
2B - I personally hated Doughty there and always thought he was more comfortable at 3rd. He looked uncomfortable sitting back on balls rather than just reacting and being an athlete at the hot corner.
3B - Berry actually settled in to be serviceable before he got hurt. And he’s obviously a bat you can’t take out of the lineup.
SS - Just awful, no other way to describe it. I do remember Johnson praising his defense in the off-season, so maybe he just didn’t foresee what it would look like in the regular season.
LF - Dugas was never a terrible fielder. His injury started the revolving door and no one seemed to want to take the job.
CF - Crews actually looked uncomfortable initially in CF. Then the light turned on for him and he turned into Jim Edmonds out there.
RF - Gio was a solid option out there initially until his bat went completely dead. Pearson was definitely an offense over defense kind of move.
I honestly think Jobert made things more difficult for JJ to find the best defensive lineup. When Jobert was hot, there was no one better and JJ just didn’t want to take him out the lineup.
In case this is TLDR; my theory is I have no effing clue why the defense was so bad. But I find it hard to believe that a coach and program of this caliber didn’t practice defense in the off-season (even is offense was emphasized more).
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:04 pm to sportsfan
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But do we really know there wasn’t any emphasis on defense in the off-season?
I hope there wasn't an emphasis on defense during the off-season, because if there was, and we were still that bad then that's really not good.
We know Johnson values offense over defense, but yes he still "cares" about defense. Every coach does. I believe the bigger problem was that we didn't have anyone on staff that knew how to effectively coach players and help them improve their defensive abilities. You could tell by both catchers making the same mistake all season long, Doughty having bad technique all year at 2nd, etc.
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