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re: Coach O Is Crushing It

Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108424 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:17 pm to
Yep. I definitely agree with all of that.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63528 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

why do the same people have the same conversations with the same arguments and talking points day after day after day. When one 30+ page thread ends, y'all just jump right into another. Maybe it's time to realize that y'all will never come to any middle ground with these arguments. It will save y'all a lot of senseless time spent arguing in circles for hours on end every day. Because if you haven't come to terms by now, that isn't going to happen. I mean good lord, y'all are like moths to a flame.


You don't get any points for feigned impartiality on an anonymous message board you know.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290747 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:39 pm to
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2012, 2013, 2015, and 2018 are all almost identical 3 loss seasons



12'-13', ya.

2014-2015 got Miles fired. 16' he actually got fired.

How is that "we've had a good yr like most years since 2012"?

not sure what im missing here
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:42 pm to
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not sure what im missing here


Expectations going into 2015 vs 2018 and a cancelled game vs McNeese.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290747 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Expectations going into 2015 vs 2018 and a cancelled game vs McNeese.



Im not factoring in expectations, and I applied an extra win, so that is not it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:47 pm to
How do you factor Les Miles getting fired without factoring in expectations.

He never had a losing season.

He never even dipped below 8 wins.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:49 pm to
first time we have had a season ranked in the top 10 since 2011 at #6 in the country. Doing much better in SEC play, than we had been doing in recent years. Recruiting has really picked up especially in the trenches. Big time bowl win this past season. Getting transfers that are difference makers. The outlook has really gotton much better since he has gotton here and the perception of the program on the national level is on the rise.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:51 pm to
Only some of that is true

Yes 6 is better than we’ve been in year

No we aren’t doing better on SEC play.

Yes recruiting is up from last year, but 2016 we had the #2 class in the country. Same in 2014.

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:55 pm to
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How do you factor Les Miles getting fired without factoring in expectations.

He never had a losing season.

He never even dipped below 8 wins.

Miles promised the boosters an elite passing game. Miles didn't deliver on his promise. End of story.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

How do you factor Les Miles getting fired


Miles got fired for having a terrible passing game for 2.3 seasons, losing three in a row in Nov 2015, 2 of 4 to start the next year

The same will happen to any coach at LSU if you finish 108th and 109th passing in two consecutivecyears and show no desire to improve it.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290747 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:59 pm to
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How do you factor Les Miles getting fired without factoring in expectations.




I didn't fire him. But i know why he got fired.

I am weighing every season equally from 2012-present, no matter who the coach was.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70414 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:02 pm to
Miles never promised anybody an elite passing game, he said he’d change the offense and didn’t. He wasn’t fired for that he was fired because he wasn’t challenging for Western division or SEC titles anymore. 0 has lied or failed to deliver on every promise he made so should he be fired too?
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:06 pm to
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Miles promised the boosters an elite passing game. Miles didn't deliver on his promise. End of story.


So did O.
O also promised championships, quickly.
O also promised to hire the top coordinators in the country.
O also promised not to meddle and let his coaches coach.

Lsus recruiting classes leading up to O were like 6,2,5,2 the 4 years before O got here. In louisianas most loaded year in a a long time, we are sitting at 7.

We have no statistical possibility of climbing to 2, which occured twice during miles last years. This is being touted as a major accomplishment, which makes it seem like it will be hard to sustain. Last year we were in the teens in recruiting.

Which promise has Ed delivered on?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70414 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:09 pm to
Not a single 1. It’s amazing how ppl can say that there’s this drastic improvement when there’s not a single shred of data to support it. Yes there’s improvement over 0s first year but not over the previous coach’s tenure, not in any way shape or form.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Miles promised the boosters and elite passing game.


Who were you back in 2016? Because all I know about you is you're Buckeye Jeaux and you signed up on May 18th 2018.

And since you've only been here since May 18th 2018, o promised the boosters and the fans that he would hire the best coordinators in all of college football when he was hired. Just so ya know.

quote:

Miles didn't deliver on his promise.


That's cool. Neither did o.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:12 pm to
Miles was expected to win championships and didn’t

That’s why he was fired

If he was going that without a passing game the passing game wouldn’t have mattered.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79394 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:14 pm to
There is very little difference between 2 10-3 seasons outside perception.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290747 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:14 pm to
Coachspeak is worthless. At what point during your sports fandom do you stop falling for that?

It's about results and always will be. LSU is trending up from Miles' last few years, which got him fired.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:17 pm to
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first time we have had a season ranked in the top 10 since 2011 at #6 in the country.


Aren't you gonna point out that we never even cracked the top 10 during the 2012, 2013, 2014 or 2015 seasons?

Boy, you really shite the bed with that post willie.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22968 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 5:17 pm to
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It's about results and always will be. LSU is trending up from Miles' last few years, which got him fired.


We are a year removed from arguably the worst football season in a decade. There was nowhere to go but up.
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