re: Clear the Record on Woodward "Saving" Football

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Basketball was not sacrificed for football, it was sacrificed for arrogance. And we just keep doubling down.

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It still amazes me the number of ignorant people that still believe the “saving football narrative”. Woody was dead set on firing Wade, he just figured the football narrative was excellent cover.

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It is interesting that the Woodward supporters

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Would be nice if somebody could actually engage in an intelligent conversation on this.

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When you view anyone who disagrees with you as a “Woodward supporter” you are it engaging in any kind of intelligent conversation. Your world view seems to be that the LSU Athletic Director’s most important, no ONLY function is to appease a segment of MBB fans.

I’m not reading that novel you posted and it’s a moot point anyway. Whether it was a mistake or not to fire Wade, it’s over, it’s time to move on. You do not fire an AD because he made a bad decision about one program. His job is to administer a multi million dollar department overall by reasonable measures he’s doing a good job. Sorry he fired your boy but it’s wasn’t some “conspiracy” to destroy basketball just cause. It’s time to move on from Wade and hopefully either McMahon turns it around (unlikely) or they make a better hire next year and if you don’t think that will ever happen with SW, then go root for NC State

So was Wade fired because he lied or to save football?

Does it really matter? The NOA was the final blowup, and multiple things contributed to the termination , including Wade’s behavior in the situation. To pretend they didn’t give him rope is crazy, because he all but got his job back in good-standing

proof that some people truly will never go over and past their ex

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Wade did not go to McNeese because it was a great gig. He had to go there to rehabilitate his career (and did a good job).

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Yep. Because no one wanted to hire him. This proves lsu made a sound decision.

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Does it really matter?

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Yes. The accusation about Wade lying is just as speculative as the accusation of Wade being fired to save football.

Here is William Tate's termination letter: LINK

This is what we officially know:

The letter, addressed to the LSU community, the problem is and why this issue lingers is due to the fact that it did not explicitly list specific allegations or detailed reasons tied to NCAA violations as the direct cause of termination. Instead, it emphasized the broader context and the university's decision-making process following the receipt of a Notice of Allegations from the NCAA earlier that week.

The key points provided in the letter for Wade's termination were:

1. End of a Lengthy Process: The letter highlighted that for over four years, LSU had been cooperating with the NCAA investigative process, working with the Enforcement Staff and the Complex Case Unit (CCU) to gather evidence. During this time, the university and its basketball program had been under a "shroud of negativity," suggesting that the prolonged uncertainty and pressure necessitated action.

2. Receipt of NCAA Notice of Allegations: The termination came shortly after LSU received a Notice of Allegations on March 8, 2022, which detailed significant misconduct in the men’s basketball program under Wade’s tenure. While the letter did not delve into the specifics of the allegations (such as the five Level I violations Wade was accused of), it noted that the university took several days to evaluate the notice and discuss next steps, indicating its gravity influenced the decision.

3. Protecting Institutional Integrity and Student-Athletes: The letter stressed that LSU could "no longer subject our University, Department of Athletics, and—most importantly—our student-athletes, to this taxing and already-lengthy process without taking action." This implies that terminating Wade was seen as a necessary step to protect the institution’s well-being and reputation, as well as to prioritize the student-athletes.

4. Termination for Cause: The letter explicitly stated that Wade was "terminated for cause, pursuant to the provisions of his amended employment agreement." This refers to a 2019 contract amendment allowing LSU to fire Wade with cause if he was found to have committed Level I or Level II NCAA violations, a condition triggered by the Notice of Allegations. However, the letter clarified that this decision was "not an acknowledgement of agreement with any of the allegations," leaving LSU’s official stance on the allegations to be determined later after further review.


So in terms of lying to Woody or firing him to save football is just tailgate talk.

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So was Wade fired because he lied or to save football?

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It changes by the minute. The point of the post was the “saving football” narrative. Notice it quickly turned into he lied.

I believe once Wade renegotiate his contract, in good faith have you, it was a "termination with cause" threshold that was very easy for the administration to meet. The reason we don't understand or know about those details is due to the fact that it would reveal the unfairness of the renegotiated contract (that is speculation on my part). IIRC the administration had a lot of leverage over WW to renegotiate. However, if we did understand and know the details of the "termination with cause" this entire Will Wade debacle would have been put to bed a long time ago.