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re: Clay Travis predicted LSU's top 3 candidates if a change is made this year

Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:04 pm to
Name the last major college football coach to be fired after year 2 that didn't involve some major off the field issues.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:04 pm to
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No thanks to Petrino or Freeze. Lets fire Alleva, bring in Woodward and have him hire Chris Petersen.


None of this will ever happen !
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Well why in the fck did O waste a year with Canada then? He had to know what Canada was about scheme wise and personally to an extent right?


Exactly. The "O just needs time" argument doesn't hold weight after he hired an OC he didn't really want and then fired him after one season.

Either he wins, or hits the fricking pavement.
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:05 pm to
Not gonna happen my friend. LSU will not pay two buyouts and pay an additional HC and staff.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19776 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:09 pm to
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You are making a parallel where there is none re: Orgeron and Aranda.
I did no such thing.

I merely said that after the O disaster, we're going to hire a proven head coach. I never implied that O also had no head coaching experience. We all know about the Ole Miss disaster.

I made zero parallels between O and Aranda. Just said that our next head coach will be a proven winner as a head coach.

ETA: Can a guy with no HC experience succeed? Of course, and there are plenty of examples, like the one you gave. But many/most of the premier college coaches today (Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh) proved they could win at smaller schools, then moved up. It's risk reduction to hire a guy that's won before.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 2:12 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Name the last major college football coach to be fired after year 2 that didn't involve some major off the field issues.



Name the last time a top 10 program hired a DL coach that couldn't get an interview for the Syracuse HC job and was the worst coach in OM history.
Posted by jTy
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:13 pm to
Don't care. Clay needs to tell us who the top 3 AD candidates are first.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:17 pm to
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Kiffen is not a likable person, not many people can stand to be around him for any length of time, not even his wife ! Alabama left him on the tarmac cause they couldn’t stand a long ride home with him ! And there are number of other instances

so being warm and fuzzy is now a primary criteria for our head coach? Good god.

Saban isn't friendly, and Meyer doesn't seem all lovable either. But who cares.

I want a winner.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:17 pm to
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Can a guy with no HC experience succeed? Of course, and there are plenty of examples, like the one you gave. But many/most of the premier college coaches today (Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh) proved they could win at smaller schools, then moved up. It's risk reduction to hire a guy that's won before.



The trend is beginning to move in the other direction. Smart, Riley, Dabo have all been successful with no prior HC experience. I don't mind taking a chance on a young coordinator.

Let's be honest, we still have 5-7 years of the Saban machine to endure. I don't mind taking a risk on a young guy and seeing if you strike gold. I would rather that than hiring somebody just because they have HC experience.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:18 pm to
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Clay needs to tell us who the top 3 AD candidates are first.



agree
Posted by Giantkiller
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:22 pm to
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if O goes 7-5/8-4 he is toast


Incorrect. If O wins at least 6 games this season, he's still in.

If he only wins 6 again in 2019, he gone.

Clay is an awesome bomb thrower but he's wrong on this one, as much as the negatigers may rejoice.

It doesn't really matter though because we're going to win 9-10 games perennially, finishing 2nd or 3rd in the West forever.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:23 pm to
STAB
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50994 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:24 pm to
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Incorrect. If O wins at least 6 games, he's still in.

If he only wins 6 next year, he gone.


So, if he wins 6 he's staying, but if he wins 6 he's fired.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:28 pm to
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So, if he wins 6 he's staying, but if he wins 6 he's fired.


I should edit that... I mean 6 this year coming up and he's good. But then if he wins 6 games again, meaning 2019.. THEN he's gone.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33123 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:29 pm to
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Incorrect. If O wins at least 6 games, he's still in.

If he only wins 6 next year, he gone.


Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50994 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:31 pm to
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I should edit that... I mean 6 this year coming up and he's good. But then if he wins 6 games again, meaning 2019.. THEN he's gone.


If he wins 6 games in 2018 only winning the West will save him in 2019.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:34 pm to
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If he wins 6 games in 2018 only winning the West will save him in 2019.



What about a 6 win season in 2018 but a 10 win season and 2nd in the West in 2019?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22864 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:38 pm to
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What about a 6 win season in 2018 but a 10 win season and 2nd in the West in 2019?


If he only wins 6 games in 2018 he should be fired before Thanksgiving dinner is served.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78272 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:39 pm to
If he goes 6-7 he gone

If he goes 7-6 he should be gone.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17443 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:41 pm to
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Name the last major college football coach to be fired after year 2 that didn't involve some major off the field issues.

Probably Jon Embree at Colorado or Turner Gill at Kansas.
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