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re: Check in here if you're ok with swinging there 2-0

Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5367 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:11 pm to
Oh really? Hindsight is 20/20? Damn didn't know that
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
60005 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:13 pm to
you should trust one of the best hitters in your lineup to produce in any situation he had an unlucky bounce cost the game.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24389 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:13 pm to
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this is the guy who last week said he would sac bunt miguel cabrera (major league 2012 double play leader) in the fourth inning of the world series. so take all this with a grain of salt.






I said in the World series late in the game if you need to move a runner over I would bunt Cabrera or who ever it is I don't give a fawk how many HR's the guy has or if hes hitting .600. The correct call is to bunt and move the runner over into scoring position.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11532 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:15 pm to
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But in that situation, where you NEED one and only one run to continue the game, you bunt. Bunting actually nets you on average less runs, but more innings where you score at least 1 run...which is all we needed.


And I couldn't disagree more. If you managed the 2001 Giants, I think Bonds would have finished the year with double digit sac bunts.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24389 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:15 pm to
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Seemed to work for UCLA tonight




people don't understand your not throwing an out away your moving a runner into scoring position with only one out.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24389 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:15 pm to
Im going to say it one last time.






Bunt or lose................
Posted by Dtiger19
Member since Dec 2007
831 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:16 pm to
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Throwing away outs is NEVER a good move. The bunt is a stupid play and the statistics prove it.



Did you even watch the game?
Posted by Gulffisherman
Bogalusa
Member since Oct 2009
3531 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:16 pm to
will CPM man up on the no bunt call?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52279 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

I said in the World series late in the game if you need to move a runner over I would bunt Cabrera or who ever it is I don't give a fawk how many HR's the guy has or if hes hitting .600. The correct call is to bunt and move the runner over into scoring position.


Not at all. If its Bregs/Katz/Jacoby or even Ibarra up there you may be able to consider letting them take a hack because they all have enough power to the gaps to get the run across if they grove one. Rhymes is a ground ball singles hitter which is why he had no business swinging away there.
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
4065 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:17 pm to
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Seemed to work for UCLA tonight



Rhymes's double play would've turned out much differently if the 3rd baseman had thrown it into right field, if we want to count on pressuring the fielder.
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
8432 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:19 pm to
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people don't understand your not throwing an out away your moving a runner into scoring position with only one out.

the way I look at it is this..
Is there a better chance of getting two hits from three batters or one hit from 2 batters
I bunt every time, no matter who is up
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 11:21 pm
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46148 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:19 pm to
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Throwing away outs is NEVER a good move.


This is a glass half-empty viewpoint.

It's also a way to getting a run (game tying run in this case) in scoring position. The fact that T Moore got that hit the very next AB made the DP much worse.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
60005 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:19 pm to
assuming people are saying the bunt worked for UCLA tonight, it actually didn't.

Bunt for a single turned into an error gets to second moved to third by ground out sac fly

then guy got to second (yes with bunt) and error brought him in.

the typical bunt him to second get a base hit never worked for UCLA tonight.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24389 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:19 pm to
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Not at all. If its Bregs/Katz/Jacoby or even Ibarra up there you may be able to consider letting them take a hack because they all have enough power to the gaps to get the run across if they grove one. Rhymes is a ground ball singles hitter which is why he had no business swinging away there.








Its the freakin 9th inning you bunt the ball. This is not a mid week game against Tulane where you let them all swing away. Its Game 1 of the College World Series its the 9th inning with a runner on 1st and no outs. You bunt the damn ball...
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70144 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:20 pm to
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you should trust one of the best hitters in your lineup to produce in any situation he had an unlucky bounce cost the game.


Unlucky bounce?
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24389 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

the way I look at it is this.. Is there a better chance of getting two hits from three batters or one hit from 2 batters (possibly 3 if they walk someone with first base open) I bunt every time, no matter who is up






damn I love ya
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11532 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:21 pm to
yeah, UCLA's sac bunting didn't get them anything. They just kept wasting the leadoff guy one. Now their bunt for a hit worked out due to our poor fielding.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26811 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:21 pm to
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pussy small ball college shite...


Unfortunately, this is college. And those pussies are in the winners bracket.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:22 pm to
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Its the freakin 9th inning you bunt the ball.


Easy one. You put your tying run on second base and eliminate the DP possibility..
Posted by hhstigerdad
St. Charles Parish
Member since Oct 2003
379 posts
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:22 pm to
No frickin way. When you're in a tight game against a team that executes fundamentals flawlessly, you SHOULD BE PLAYING FUNDAMENTAL BASEBALL! Bunting Rhymes was the correct call. YOU DON'T LET A DOUBLE PLAY MACHINE SWING AWAY IN THAT SITUATION! Maneri was soundly out-coached tonight!
Another example... hitter swinging at first pitches from the 7th inning on. FUNDAMENTALS call for taking until you get a strike, especially being behind. Really pissed off at Manieri tonight.

Hope we can find a way to get back in it on Tuesday.
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