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re: Charles Turner has his say on Coach Brian Kelly

Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:20 am to
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30923 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:20 am to
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Kelly apparently built a roster full of attention needing puppies instead of junkyard dogs.


Wow! You must have never played a sport in your life. I had some great coaches and not so great coaches in my youth. The best coach I ever had was one that knew every player on the team and treated us all the same no matter how good or bad we were at our positions and I was one of the bad ones. That paticular coach, at one time, held the record for the most wins in high football in Louisiana.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8519 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:21 am to
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managed a ton of people. A personal relationship is absolutely necessary for building culture and team chemistry. In an organization as small as a college football team, this cannot be delegated by the CEO/HC the way it must be in General Electric or Amazon. The HC should know the guy washing the uniforms, and that guy should be telling his family what a great guy the HC is.


If you wanna know why Saban was so successful, this is it. I’ve had the pleasure of speaking with some of his lsu players; some bench warmers and some stars. One thing they said was that he knew who you were, and everything about you he could find out. And it was genuine. BK did not care about his players and is not a players coach.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27185 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:22 am to
Are you a better employee if your boss engages with you or not. Are you a better employee if your boss trains/guides you or not?

The answer is obvious and is it the root of all of BK issues
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72012 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:29 am to
What’s funny is no one on the board gave a shite about this until now

It was obvious from day one Kelly thought he was above his own team and program
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by Akiro
Member since Jun 2025
414 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:32 am to
No dude was on cruise control after ‘22. Now he can take a senior citizen cruise to fuxville
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29053 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:45 am to
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That’s fine to have that personality…but that shite ain’t gonna work with 18-22 YO kids needing guidance, coaching and attention.

Literally part of your job as a CFB head coach. What a farce he was.
Go watch good coaches. They always talk about raising men. Raising good men. Even Les Miles was like that. Kelly was missing that. It just never felt genuine from him.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83232 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:48 am to
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My honest opinion is that he just isn't a people person. Some people are like that.


And yet this wasn’t a problem for him before LSU. Maybe a coach can’t be like this in portal/NIL era
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3738 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:50 am to
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Wow! You must have never played a sport in your life. I had some great coaches and not so great coaches in my youth.


There's a huge difference between youth sports / high school sports and a multi-hundred million dollar college football program with players threatening to leave constantly for more money.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 8:19 am
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4564 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:57 am to
You’re also not the coach of a football team of 100 guys that look up to you. In a position of leadership like a college football coach, you have to build relationships with your guys.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2242 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:04 am to
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John Casey


Oh this guy haha. You still being a kelly sunshine pumper??
Bitter much? How ya been holding up fella?? I know it’s a rough time losing your idol but time will heal ****.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3738 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:07 am to
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You still being a kelly sunshine pumper??
Bitter much? How ya been holding up fella?? I know it’s a rough time losing your idol but time will heal ****.


I'm devastated. Not sure how I will go on with being an LSU fan.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52503 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:09 am to
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If you wanna know why Saban was so successful, this is it. I’ve had the pleasure of speaking with some of his lsu players; some bench warmers and some stars. One thing they said was that he knew who you were, and everything about you he could find out.

Definitely a key factor, but if that was the main factor then all the best coaches would be women.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62543 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:09 am to
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It was obvious from day one Kelly thought he was above his own team and program


For me I guess it was wishful thinking that the public persona didn’t reflect what was going on internally with the program. Sometimes you can judge a book by its cover. Mea culpa.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3450 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:14 am to
My head coach at Walker was like this when I played many years ago. As players, we were not allowed to talk to him, go into his office or anything. All the assistant coaches did 98% of the coaching and daily interactions. He would give pre game speeches ever once in a while and he would call the plays and that was about it.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113308 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:15 am to
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And yet this wasn’t a problem for him before LSU. Maybe a coach can’t be like this in portal/NIL era


It was pain in the arse for players to transfer pre-portal and pre-NIL. Not easy being a HC these days having to continually recruit your own roster and keeping them motivated. Even Kirby’s teams are not as feared as they were before all this. Kelly definitely couldn’t do it.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71323 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:20 am to
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Does anyone really feel like he was all in on this job as far as work ethic?

I think Kelly likes the status that comes with being an SEC head football coach at a place like LSU. I don’t think he gave a damn about his players or the job itself. Seemed like he was always going through the motions.

It’s very telling that not a single player has made a post about how much he meant to them or anything of the sort. Even coaches who are bad and fired have players who love them. I’m not so sure I’ve ever seen an exit quite like this. Pretty much the whole world is like “see ya, don’t let the door hit you on your way out.”


Cliffs: he’s an a-hole, no one likes him, and he never cared about being here
Posted by Bedtiger
Thibodaux
Member since Dec 2018
577 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:28 am to
‘John Casey’ you are correct that’s what the college athletes are today, you have to be able to keep them on the pedestal, praise them, pay them and worship them. It’s what they are used to in today’s world, Coaches need to be able to understand what society has created.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
3129 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:15 am to
Just a few things on Coaches and players:
1. At least 60% of these guys come from broken homes who need a father. Coaches often take over that role, whether they want to or not.
2. A lot of these kids have never been further than 50 miles from home. Meaning they are on their own for the first time. Structure and guidance are often craved by these kids. A CEO type coach isn't doing that.
3. Most of these guys a more interactions with their S&C coaches than any other coach, but if the example isn't set from the top, why is the S&C guy going to care that much if the head guy doesn't.
4. It is true that they are getting paid but considering the number of NFL players that go broke, the family and various entourages around these kids are not the best. They really need someone to help and educate them on life.
5. Kelley has had multiple players involved with criminals. Although that isn't rare for a college program. It is rare that a player has two murderers and multiple weapons in his university paid for apt.

Personal Interaction with your players is very important. The same as your own kids. I may be mistaken, but I remember a survey of employees that said a healthy work enviornment was more important than more pay.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15391 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:20 am to
Why does no one try to explain why these homes are broken in the first place? Is that not important?
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40012 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:22 am to
Which coach was it that had them put tape with their names on their helmet u til he learned them??
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