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re: CBS & USA Today Articles - "not good things (are coming to LSU)"
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:09 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:09 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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Oh.....I'll let the NCAA know your opinion.
You asked if my opinion would change. I explained Why it wouldn’t.
Just because you’re Pro NCAA fricking us doesn’t mean you have to get bitchy when some people feel they shouldn’t.
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:40 pm to Irish LSU Fan
irish, a few years back, UNC received an NOA from the NCAA that contained charges of over 25 years of systematic fraudulent courses being provided to athletes and students, including players passing classes without ever attending. Last I heard, UNC was going to fight the NCAA tooth and nail. I don't recall how that case turned out. Since you say once the NOA arrives it's over, they must have gotten crucified, right?????
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:55 pm to tigahlovah
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irish, a few years back, UNC received an NOA from the NCAA that contained charges of over 25 years of systematic fraudulent courses being provided to athletes and students, including players passing classes without ever attending. Last I heard, UNC was going to fight the NCAA tooth and nail. I don't recall how that case turned out. Since you say once the NOA arrives it's over, they must have gotten crucified, right?????
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:31 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Your sister in-law fighting irish claims that once LSU receives the NOA, it's over, LSU is convicted and sentenced. I never heard what the SEVERE punishment was after UNC received THREE NOA'S from the NCAA. I was hoping irish could refresh my memory and tell me what the heels got so I can brace myself if/when LSU gets their NOA.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:32 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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The NCAA cleared Smart in a hurry due to circumstances at the time. However, anyone who thinks that's the end of it would be fooling themselves.
No just no. The NCAA never not ever cleared Smart!
Damn we need an FAQ on this.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:35 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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I don't know, and you don't know, but there seems to be something here that warrants deep concern.
No there isn’t. You’ve offered zero proof, just speculation which are like assholes. Everyone has one.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:36 pm to NoGeaux
Preliminarily Smart was cleared, but the investigation wasn't closed.
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Javonte Smart, who was held out of LSU's regular-season finale last week amid an investigation into suspended coach Will Wade, has been cleared to play Friday in LSU's SEC Tournament game against Florida.
Smart has "fully cooperated and participated in a joint inquiry with LSU and the NCAA resulting from reports of wiretapped conversations purportedly involving Head Coach Will Wade," according to a statement from the school.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:38 pm to TigerLunatik
Lol LSU cleared him not the NCAA
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:41 pm to NoGeaux
Seems like if it was a joint inquiry then they were sharing info which would mean that both cleared him, no? If the NCAA had something on him at that time, I would imagine that would have told LSU. Maybe it's semantics.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:42 pm to TigerLunatik
"LSU has cleared freshman Javonte Smart for today's game against the University of Florida in the SEC men's basketball tournament. Smart has fully cooperated and participated in a joint inquiry with LSU and the NCAA resulting from reports of wiretapped conversations purportedly involving head coach Will Wade.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:44 pm to TigerLunatik
No. Not even close.
Dude LSU’s own press release states clearly that LSU cleared him.
Damn.
Dude LSU’s own press release states clearly that LSU cleared him.
Damn.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:46 pm to NoGeaux
"Though the inquiry is not closed, after multiple additional interviews, there has been no wrongdoing identified to date" LSU said in a statement. "As a result, and because of his full cooperation and transparency in this matter, Smart has been cleared by university officials for play on Friday.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:47 pm to TigerLunatik
Show me anywhere anywhere where the NCAA cleared Smart
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:50 pm to NoGeaux
Again, if it's a joint inquiry, would LSU have cleared him to play if the NCAA found something? You don't think they got the OK from a joint inquiry? And, as I already stated, it was a preliminary thing. It's not as if I was saying that he was in the clear. Settle down. 
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:51 pm to TigerLunatik
And no. The NCAA does not share findings until the NOA.
Again we need I mean need an FAQ.
There is so much just f’n false info our there.
Again we need I mean need an FAQ.
There is so much just f’n false info our there.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:51 pm to TigerLunatik
It’s NOT a joint inquiry DAMN
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:56 pm to NoGeaux
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“Smart has fully cooperated and participated in a joint inquiry with LSU and the NCAA resulting from reports of wiretapped conversations purportedly involving Head Coach Will Wade,” the statement read.
It's not a joint inquiry?
Here's a statement from Robert Munson...
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LSU senior associate athletic director Robert Munson told NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune that he was pleased with the speed of the decision to reinstate Smart.
“I’d say it went very, very quickly,” Munson said. “I would tell you that the NCAA has been amazing in working with this. They got on the ground quickly. The worked very, very late, very long days to get us to this point. We have been extremely pleased with the cooperation and the speed in which they’ve worked. They’ve been very responsive to us.”
Sure sounds like he's saying that the NCAA was very involved in clearing him.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:11 pm to TigerLunatik
Just because LSU calls it a joint inquiry doesn’t make it one.
The NCAA has never commented on this and in fact never comment on investigations until the NOA.
I’m not saying there will ever be or should be a finding vs Smart. But it’s simply not true in any sense by and standard that Smart was “cleared” by the NCAA and no one other than LSU has ever claimed a “joint” inquiry. The NCAA has never said it not only in regard to LSU but no other university ever.
NCAA acknowledges “self-reports” and “cooperation” but not ever joint inquiries. Never! Only target member institutions call then joint inquiries. From the NCAA perspective there simply is no such thing.
The NCAA has never commented on this and in fact never comment on investigations until the NOA.
I’m not saying there will ever be or should be a finding vs Smart. But it’s simply not true in any sense by and standard that Smart was “cleared” by the NCAA and no one other than LSU has ever claimed a “joint” inquiry. The NCAA has never said it not only in regard to LSU but no other university ever.
NCAA acknowledges “self-reports” and “cooperation” but not ever joint inquiries. Never! Only target member institutions call then joint inquiries. From the NCAA perspective there simply is no such thing.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:20 pm to tigahlovah
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Since you say once the NOA arrives it's over, they must have gotten crucified, right?????
This may clear some of your confusion....
"A Division I Committee on Infractions hearing panel could not conclude that the University of North Carolina violated NCAA academic rules when it made available deficient Department of African and Afro-American Studies 'paper courses' to the general student body, including student-athletes."
"The critical point, as far as the NCAA is concerned, is that the general student body at North Carolina was benefitting from courses in African and Afro-American Studies that required little attendance and almost no work. "
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:27 pm to tigahlovah
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I never heard what the SEVERE punishment was after UNC received THREE NOA'S from the NCAA. I was hoping irish could refresh my memory and tell me what the heels got so I can brace myself if/when LSU gets their NOA.
The UNC case was very complicated involving 3 different rewrites of the original NCAA NOA. According to CBS Sports, the critical issue was a series of classes that required almost no work and rarely met. The NCAA reversed their original claim because the course(s) was offered (and registered by) the regular student body (not just athletes).
This case is very irregular compared to the many, many NOA's received by other schools. The overwhelming majority of NOA's are received (and responded to) by institutions followed by sanctions.
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