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re: Can we pull a few threads from when Daniels decided to return for his last year
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:47 pm to Salviati
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:47 pm to Salviati
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Sorry, but that's a logical fallacy
How?
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You're attempting to diminish Daniels' 2022 season by comparing it to his record setting Heisman season
No I'm not. I'm showing something that factually happened in 2022. The numbers back it up.
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The answer is that his 2022 season was good if not very, very good.
I didn't say it wasn't good
I said I had my doubts that he could be the elite QB he ended up being because of what he did in 2022. He averaged 208 yards per game in 2022. Sure, he was efficient. But a little over 200 yards and 1 passing TD per game isn't the stellar season you're acting like it was. 
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:27 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Then compare his numbers from 2022 to something other than his 2024 record-setting numbers.quote:No I'm not. I'm showing something that factually happened in 2022. The numbers back it up.
You're attempting to diminish Daniels' 2022 season by comparing it to his record setting Heisman season
Sure, Daniels had a YPA of 7.5 in 2022, but that was above average for 2022, and remarkably similar to Burrow (7.6) in 2018 and Nuss (7.7) in 2024, while Daniels had a higher completion percentage and passer rating. Again, Daniels' 2022 season was good if not very, very good.
quote:I never said Daniels had a stellar season in 2022. Moreover, this thread is NOT about people posting that Daniels had a good season in 2022.
I didn't say it wasn't good I said I had my doubts that he could be the elite QB he ended up being because of what he did in 2022. He averaged 208 yards per game in 2022. Sure, he was efficient. But a little over 200 yards and 1 passing TD per game isn't the stellar season you're acting like it was.
This thread is about posters complaining about Daniels coming back for the 2023 season, and now trying to justify those and other equally stupid comments.
Daniels had a good season in 2022. It was better than Burrow's season in 2018; it was better than Nuss's season in 2024; and it was better than most SEC QBs in 2022.
The rationalizations in this thread trying to defend any post other than welcoming Daniels back in 2023 with open arms are baseless and moronic.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:31 pm to Salviati
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Then compare his numbers from 2022 to something other than his 2024 record-setting numbers.
208 yards and a TD is ok
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Again, Daniels' 2022 season was good if not very, very good.
208 and a TD
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and it was better than most SEC QBs in 2022.
Based on what? 11th in YPG, 6th in QBR, 9th in TDs. Factor in his running, and he was average to slightly above average, not better than most.
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The rationalizations in this thread trying to defend any post other than welcoming Daniels back in 2023 with open arms are baseless and moronic.
Glazing his 2022 season with lies and nonsense is equally moronic.
ETA: the fact that you refuse to even acknowledge his deficiencies pushing the ball downfield tells me all I need to know. But you also still defend Jordan Jefferson as a good QB, so I shouldn't be surprised.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:40 pm to offshoretrash
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There will be some criticism from me in those threads, I wasn't wrong in what I said. He worked his arse off and fixed those issues.
Yea you were wrong. There were obviously some chemistry issues when he first got here. But This board acted like Jayden was limited as a passer and could hang in the sec. He was always a talented passer but WE had to get better around him. He didn’t become a heisman caliber and ROY over night because he “worked on things”. Of course he got better as a senior and but the narrative that he just completely changed and fixed all these problems in one off season is ridiculous. He beat Justin Herbert and Oregon when he was at ASU. He has always been the best player on the field, it just took most our fans two years to realize.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:42 pm to offshoretrash
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There will be some criticism from me in those threads
Being realistic….it’s next to impossible to predict a QB can improve that much and win a Heisman trophy the next season. Same with Joe Burrow.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:49 pm to High Life
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Of course he got better as a senior and but the narrative that he just completely changed and fixed all these problems in one off season is ridiculous.
I mean, that's exactly what happened though. He couldn't go through progressions to save his life in 2022, and was one of the best in 2023. He went from hesitating to let the ball go in 2022, to throwing with anticipation at an elite level in 2023.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:53 pm to ctiger69
quote:I think it was less about predicting how much he’d improve, compared to people hoping he’d transfer or go pro and were legitimately upset when he decided to return and play football for LSU.
Being realistic….it’s next to impossible to predict a QB can improve that much and win a Heisman trophy the next season. Same with Joe Burrow.
That’s some fricked up shite.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:12 pm to Sun God
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LINK
Wow, there are some great takes in that thread
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:16 pm to LNCHBOX
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He couldn't go through progressions to save his life in 2022
Tell that to Nick pal
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:16 pm to Sun God
The amount of simping for Walker Howard in that link is pathetic.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:37 pm to GumboPot
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Seriously, IIRC my biggest criticism was holding on to the ball too long especially his first season with LSU.
After the Grambling game in JD5's second game of the second season a light bulb went off and his Heisman run ensued.
There were signs in 2022 though. I recall catching some shite for saying I thought he was improving after the Tennessee game. He was being more decisive and keeping his eyes downfield for longer. Nobody wanted to hear it, because we got our asses kicked (after digging a huge hole at the beginning and becoming one-dimensional), but I thought he showed signs of improvement as the season went on.
I thought he would improve a ton in 2023. I’m not going to pretend I thought he would win the Heisman, but I was actually kind of disappointed at the lack of improvement in the 2023 FSU game. Of course, that team went on to win their next 12 and would have been a legit contender (IMHO) if not for the Travis injury.. but I digress.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:42 pm to Sun God
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White Tiger
This fuggin’ guy. Oooooof.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:45 pm to FLObserver
kingofthelv
My favorite
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that man sucks.. i saw it in person.. he is awful.. i watched joe in person in 2018 and i saw it coming.. i don’t see it with him at all.. now walker he is coming
My favorite
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:18 pm to Salviati
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Again, Daniels' 2022 season was good if not very, very good.
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Then compare his numbers from 2022 to something other than his 2024 record-setting numbers.
How about every other QB in 2022.
JD's 2,913 yards in 2022 were good for 43rd in the country that season, and 35 of the QB's ahead of him played fewer games.
His 17 passing touchdowns were good for 66th in the nation, and again, 57 of those QB's played fewer games.
He only threw 3 picks. That's great.
His completion percentage was 68.6, or 9th in the country. That's good, but 7.5 ypa isn't great.
His yards per game were 208. That's 72nd in the country. Decidedly average.
Now, to be fair, he rushed for 885 yards and 11 touchdowns. So, technically he was worth 271 ypg and 2 TD per game. That may be good by LSU standards.
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and it was better than most SEC QBs in 2022.
Actually, he was about mid.
The revisionist history on his 2022 season has got to stop. We watched the games. He didn't throw unless his receiver was wide open.
5 of 14 games he passed for fewer than 200 yards. That's objectively bad.
7 of 14 games he had fewer than 300 yards total. That's not great for a guy with his abilities.
7 of 14 games he accounted for 1 or 0 TD's. That's bad. That's really bad.
I'm glad he came back in 2023. He was awesome then.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:34 pm to FLObserver
I wish they would you would see the same stupid idiots that are condemning Nuss’s return 
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:14 pm to FLObserver
Instead. Find a thread from anyone in the country who thought Jayden was going to set season records and win the Heisman.
He had an epic transformation and it was awesome to watch.
He had an epic transformation and it was awesome to watch.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:20 pm to Sun God
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LINK
The amount of consternation over the former Ole Miss/current USL QB who never took a meaningful snap at LSU is interesting.
Not to the level of losing the other future heisman winner Bryce Underwood, but interesting all the same.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 5:32 am to coolpapaboze
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Anyone who said that a guy who had been a multi-year starter at that point, an effective duel threat with consistent limitations, was going to make the jump into an incredible downfield passing threat and win the Heisman is full of shite. This thread sucks.
Correct. This is a gotcha thread. I was right , you was wrong type shite.
It is always easy after the fact to look back and see results and then say I told you so if you were right.I'm happy he proved me wrong.
I'm happy for JD and for him to represent LSU in the pros. The young man will make alot of money on his next contract
Congratulations to him and also to the WR who played with him for absolutely balling out in the NFL.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 6:06 am to Mandtgr47
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Yes he did. I would not call it sad. However, you coming on here trying to act like you knew he was going to be great is typical of this board. There was every reason in the world to believe that he wouldn't take the next step, after starting for the better part of 4 years prior to his breakout year
There were a few of us predicting a Heisman invite for JD. The fact that you were blind to how close he was to that next step seems more related to your Brennan fetish.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 6:46 am to FLObserver
Maybe someone with some free time should go pull some gems from your post history.
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