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re: Can we make fun of Bryan Lazare? (LSU baseball scorekeeper)
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:39 pm to Kim Jong Ir
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:39 pm to Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:41 pm to LSURussian
Just trying to educate the masses. I keep hearing on TV how we have the "most knowledgeable baseball fans on the planet", yet some folks don't understand how an official scorer makes his rulings.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:42 pm to LSUGrad9295
Again it was an error regardless, but the way he played it just make you shake your head. And removes all doubt
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:45 pm to bbap
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Again it was an error regardless, but the way he played it just make you shake your head. And removes all doubt
But had he fielded the ball (which he didn't) and made a mental error and thrown home instead of to first base, it would not have been an error. You must remember that.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:46 pm to LSUGrad9295
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Just trying to educate the masses. I keep hearing on TV how we have the "most knowledgeable baseball fans on the planet", yet some folks don't understand how an official scorer makes his rulings.
Agreed
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:48 pm to Kim Jong Ir
Yeah that guys really hanging his hat on that very vague wording(and it's not even applicable since it was an error regardless of decision making).
It was an error, and really not even debatable.
It was an error, and really not even debatable.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:50 pm to bbap
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Yeah that guys really hanging his heart on that very vague wording. It was an error, and really not even debatable.
Him charging the ball is not what would have made it an error. And really it's a 50/50 call. Those types of plays are given hits all the time.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:51 pm to bbap
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Yeah that guys really hanging his hat on that very vague wording(and it's not even applicable since it was an error regardless of decision making).
It was an error, and really not even debatable.
I agree 100%. Hitting the rack now. Back at the Box in about 11 hours.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:01 am to LSUGrad9295
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I am not disagreeing with any of this necessarily.
However, by the rules of scoring baseball, this does NOT constitute an error.
It is the same as if an outfielder misreads a fly ball, takes the wrong path, then doesnt get to it. It is a hit, not an error.
You failed to point out that he booted the ball.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 6:44 am to Broski
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Seriously, how the frick can he rule a grounder straight to Bregman that was botched a hit?
Maybe he was confused and thought Rhymes was batting.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:18 am to bbap
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It was a hit all the way, and really not even debatable
You guys screaming for an E are really laughable. Not that you want an E given but the reason why....he started back first, he charged it but didn't have to, he bobbled it.
oh lord, gotta love the rant
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:23 am to LSUGrad9295
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LSUGrad9295 Can we make fun of Bryan Lazare? (LSU baseball scorekeeper) Just trying to educate the masses.
Educate the masses about a judgement call? You sound awesome.....and totally full of shite.
E6 all the way.
Glad the tigers won regardless.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:31 am to TigerCub
Looks like we will all disagree on this one. I think it could have gone either way. I would have ruled it an error given the situation.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:45 am to josh336
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Looks like we will all disagree on this one. I think it could have gone either way. I would have ruled it an error given the situation.
Yeah, IDK, but I love the guys on both sides saying, "It's not even debatable"...this after 3 pages of debate!
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:55 am to josh336
quote:This is right way to put it. 50 scorers would have called an error; the other 50, a hit. But I think what has gotten that play so much attention is the situation. A freshman pitcher was deep in the game with a no hitter still alive. At home, that would usually be enough for the scorer to lean error on a close, judgement call. It's almost expected.
I think it could have gone either way.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:46 am to Broski
Bryan Lazare, the same idiot that worked or works for Tigerbait.com? The same Bryan Lazare that has never put out an article without some major grammatical or writing error that a sophomore in HS would get -5 points for???
Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:00 am to crazyLSUfan
The real question here is "if that ball was hit to Kramer, is it ruled an error?"
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:37 am to Choupique19
I vote E6. Bregman turns too many of his chances into unnecessary all-or-nothing plays.
If we are up 19-0 vs Yale, that sort of stuff is ok. Not in a close game with a no-hitter going.
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BOOOO to Cox...while all this was going on...they had Rantz/K-Creature for 5 minutes and basically were ignoring the play on the field.
If we are up 19-0 vs Yale, that sort of stuff is ok. Not in a close game with a no-hitter going.
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The real question here is "if that ball was hit to Kramer, is it ruled an error?"
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:46 am to ell_13
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This is right way to put it. 50 scorers would have called an error; the other 50, a hit. But I think what has gotten that play so much attention is the situation. A freshman pitcher was deep in the game with a no hitter still alive. At home, that would usually be enough for the scorer to lean error on a close, judgement call. It's almost expected.
I don't know how they do it in college, but on a questionable ruling in the pros, the score keeper will actually talk to both managers and the fielder after the game and ask what they think it was.
I can tell you, of the three people involved in that play, two of them want it to be ruled a hit.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 12:25 pm to Wayne Campbell
LSU hit a ball between the legs of the SS under his glove that was as routine as any play and ruled it a hit too.
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