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re: Can anyone name one QB that Ensminger developed or coached up successfully
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:59 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:59 pm to Tiger Ree
We scored 0 points and 125 yards vs Bama.
That statistics is bullshite. It adjusts but you can still inflate your number vs shorty teams.
It doesn’t mean we performed well vs Good defenses. It means on a total we performed
Above average vs all our opponents.
You can grind number all you want we scored 10 total points when we couldn’t just run all over everyone.
Don’t tell me how brilliant Steve Ensminfer’s offense was when it could get more than 10 fricking points to beat Bama.
That was trash. The offense wasn’t good. We just run up the score on shitty teams.
That statistics is bullshite. It adjusts but you can still inflate your number vs shorty teams.
It doesn’t mean we performed well vs Good defenses. It means on a total we performed
Above average vs all our opponents.
You can grind number all you want we scored 10 total points when we couldn’t just run all over everyone.
Don’t tell me how brilliant Steve Ensminfer’s offense was when it could get more than 10 fricking points to beat Bama.
That was trash. The offense wasn’t good. We just run up the score on shitty teams.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:13 pm to nvasil1
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This crap gets old, too. No one wants LSU to fail, but if you can't understand why many fans have doubts, you're just sticking your head in the sand.
If these doubts end up coming to fruition on the field, it would be far more detrimental to recruiting than anonymous posts on a message board.
After six goddamn months of the same garbage being regurgitated in one way or another it just gets tiresome It does have effect on recruits whether some believe it when our own fans are constantly criticizing our coaching staff ,
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:20 pm to Geauxgurt
I could have gone without seeing these numbers. Then again, my expectations are already pretty low.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:30 pm to Tiger Ree
Looks like we're still reaching to find ways to show just how upset some of you are that O is still the coach despite the season kickoff months away for him to make or break himself. The rest of us get it. He's not Saban or nowhere close to that. But I'm not willing to wish we lose just to prove a point.
As for SE as OC, the OP used a bad example to prove he wasn't fit either. Hell Cam Cameron coached Brees and Phillip Rivers, but how did that work out for us? This year will play itself out. Either we win and the staff stays or we lose and all hell breaks lose. Let's let the season get here.
As for SE as OC, the OP used a bad example to prove he wasn't fit either. Hell Cam Cameron coached Brees and Phillip Rivers, but how did that work out for us? This year will play itself out. Either we win and the staff stays or we lose and all hell breaks lose. Let's let the season get here.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:35 pm to LuzianaFootball
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Looks like we're still reaching to find ways to show just how upset some of you are that O is still the coach despite the season kickoff months away for him to make or break himself. The rest of us get it. He's not Saban or nowhere close to that. But I'm not willing to wish we lose just to prove a point.
Point out a single post in this thread that indicates the poster "wants LSU to lose".
I'll wait.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:43 pm to tigersbb
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Why don't you just wait until the season plays out and see how it plays out
You could say this literally every off-season. When is one allowed to criticize them?
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When the season ends
Then its safe to criticize them? But wait.. didn't our season just end? (Pathetically, might I add).
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This constant diatribe against Orgeron, Ensminger, Sullivan or whomever does nothing to help LSU and might be detrimental in recruiting.
Ahh we are hurting recruiting. Not the 8-4 performance last year under Orgeron that included a loss to Troy and a loss in the bowl game. Its certainly the critical posters on tigerdroppings to blame for tDecline.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:43 pm to Geauxgurt
It has become fun watching you make asses of yourselves. Comparative numbers don't tell the whole story. Other players and a lack of talent play hell with QB's numbers.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:50 pm to Ross
Yup. Good ole NALLSMINGER OFFENSE. a joke.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:54 pm to Fat Bastard
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Yup. Good ole NALLSMINGER OFFENSE. a joke.
one of the worst squanderings of offensive talent for any team in my entire football watching experience
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:54 pm to nvasil1
Stevie is the savior according to clowns like the FIRST CUT.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:59 pm to tigersbb
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After six goddamn months of the same garbage being regurgitated in one way or another it just gets tiresome
Then don't read it.
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It does have effect on recruits whether some believe it when our own fans are constantly criticizing our coaching staff
The criticisms aren't revealing any secrets about the staff. Orgeron's record as a head coach or Ensminger's history as an OC is readily available for any recruit to look up on their own. If they don't, a coach from another school will surely let them know during recruitment.
If a message board is ultimately swaying recruits, they wouldn't have been sold on LSU to begin with.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:00 pm to Lester Earl
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Zeier, Woody Dantzler, Jason Campbell, not too shabby
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:02 pm to tigersbb
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After six goddamn months of the same garbage being regurgitated in one way or another it just gets tiresome It does have effect on recruits whether some believe it when our own fans are constantly criticizing our coaching staff ,
It's sports message board, you twat. When is it OK to you for people to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of our staff, said staff members' past failures and successes, etc?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:02 pm to Geauxgurt
Hard to believe people are still melting months later.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:09 pm to TigerFan4040
So much fail in your post.
It was 9-4 with losses to the national champion and a last second loss to a traditional power ranked ahead of them.
The post was about Ensminger who was not the offensive coordinator at the end of the season. Give the man a chance before criticizing just because you don't agree with his hiring.
Whatever critical commentary that could have been made at the end of last season has been made a thousand fold. Some warranted, but much of it just asinine. Its time for it to end and look forward to next season and create some positive vibes around the program.
At this time last year Georgia was coming off a 6-6 season with a near loss to Nicholls which would be much worse than a loss to Troy which was a top 40 team last year. They had been blown out in several games against a much weaker SEC East slate than LSU faced. Now they are national runnersup so things can begin to turn around quickly. I am not predicting such a finish for LSU this year, so spare us the a-hole comment. Thats not the only barometer of success, and any coach should be given 3 to 4 years before an assessment can be made.
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Ahh we are hurting recruiting. Not the 8-4 performance last year under Orgeron that included a loss to Troy and a loss in the bowl game. Its certainly the critical posters on tigerdroppings to blame for tDecline.
It was 9-4 with losses to the national champion and a last second loss to a traditional power ranked ahead of them.
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Then its safe to criticize them? But wait.. didn't our season just end? (Pathetically, might I add).
The post was about Ensminger who was not the offensive coordinator at the end of the season. Give the man a chance before criticizing just because you don't agree with his hiring.
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You could say this literally every off-season. When is one allowed to criticize them?
Whatever critical commentary that could have been made at the end of last season has been made a thousand fold. Some warranted, but much of it just asinine. Its time for it to end and look forward to next season and create some positive vibes around the program.
At this time last year Georgia was coming off a 6-6 season with a near loss to Nicholls which would be much worse than a loss to Troy which was a top 40 team last year. They had been blown out in several games against a much weaker SEC East slate than LSU faced. Now they are national runnersup so things can begin to turn around quickly. I am not predicting such a finish for LSU this year, so spare us the a-hole comment. Thats not the only barometer of success, and any coach should be given 3 to 4 years before an assessment can be made.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:13 pm to tigersbb
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It was 9-4 with losses to the national champion and a last second loss to a traditional power ranked ahead of them.
And a Sun Belt team and an absolute beat down at the hands of our perennial whipping boy.
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The post was about Ensminger who was not the offensive coordinator at the end of the season. Give the man a chance before criticizing just because you don't agree with his hiring.
Are we not allowed to look back on past experience to determine our level of confidence in him? Why does this board even exist if all we should do is "wait and see"?
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Whatever critical commentary that could have been made at the end of last season has been made a thousand fold. Some warranted, but much of it just asinine. Its time for it to end and look forward to next season andquote:.
create some positive vibes around the program
Give me a fricking break.
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Thats not the only barometer of success, and any coach should be given 3 to 4 years before an assessment can be made.
So, we aren't allowed to discuss individual years and their positives and negatives as they unfold? Not even in the offseason following a given season? Have to wait 4 years before even addressing any results?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:21 pm to tigersbb
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Thats not the only barometer of success
Yes, Yes it is. You coach/play football to win championships. Period. End of Story.
Coaches in the SEC are paid millions to WIN - Be it the SECW, SEC, Bowl Games, Playoff Games or National Championships.
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any coach should be given 3 to 4 years before an assessment can be made
In theory, maybe. In the SEC (SEC West, specifically) if Orgeron and his hand-selected coaching staff doesn't fix the glaring issues with our program and start trending upwards he will not make it to year 3/4.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:30 pm to Geauxgurt
You spent way too much time stating the obvious.
And nothing will change until this season is played out so I suggest getting a good whiskey and enjoy your time on earth.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:33 pm to lsu2006
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So, we aren't allowed to discuss individual years and their positives and negatives as they unfold? Not even in the offseason following a given season?
Exactly these delusional fricks are like the blind leading the blind when it comes to this program. I was "cautiously optimistic" like so many going into last year until the shite show began to unfold before our very eyes. They act like this is his first season. Hes already got a year under his belt with 4 losses to boot. Oh and already threw his "we hire the best coordinators in the country" statement in the river with the ensminger hire. These sunshine pumping pussies need to open their eyes and actually watch his press conferences and LISTEN to the bullshite that comes out of his mouth.
Watching Ed at the podium tells you everything you need to know about his inability to coach/lead our program. He is literally full of hot air and bad decisions.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:49 pm to Tiger Ree
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Slinger vs Cameron:
You remember the big 0 versus Bama and 10 against a depleted UF team at home?
So because he faced significantly weaker defenses on average than Cameron did in the first 4 games, you want to tout his amazingness?
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Slinger vs Canada:
Remind me again when Canada had 2 first round level running backs last season on the field including a top 5 pick?
Remind me against the WR talent Canada had last season versus Ensminger's cake walk in 2016?
Also, the OL issues that Canada dealt with that people try to blame on Miles again?
What Ensminger did in 2016 is meaningless given the joke of a competition he put up those numbers on when defenses are accounted for.
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