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Can anyone name one QB that Ensminger developed or coached up successfully

Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:10 pm
in his career? Everyone is talking about how he hasn't been an OC in 20 years, but people also need to realize he is now LSU's QB coach despite not proving any true success at that position in that same time span.

His last time as a QB coach? 2003 Auburn where they tanked. Campbell had 10 TDs and 8 INTS. Next season once Ensminger was demoted to TE's coach, he went 20 TDs, 7 INTs.

Here is the great mind that is Ensminger's performance as an OC/QB coach prior to this year [Passer Rating, TDs, INTs]:

1994 132.5 13 7 A&M
1995 120.5 14 9 A&M
1996 107.6 9 7 A&M
1997 138.1 16 9 Clemson
1998 116.5 13 14 Clemson
2003 132.6 10 8 Auburn (QB coach only)*

Mean: 124.6 12.5 9

LSU's QBs last 6 years:
2012 128.3 12 7
2013 171.4 22 8
2014 118.3 11 7
2015 130.6 13 6
2016 135.6 11 5 *He took over for last 9 games
2017 153 16 2

Mean 139.5 14.2 5.8

So in other words, LSU's QBs in Miles last 6 years and Canada's one year, have been better than E's last 6 times as OC/QB or QB coach.

In fact, he has 1 year above LSU's mean for the last 6 years of horrible QB play, and LSU has only 1 year below his mean in that time.

Take out 2016 where E coached most of the season as OC/QB coach and LSU's numbers go up!

He is the savior!




This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:12 pm to
Myles Brennan 2018
Posted by smil3432
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:12 pm to
But did you know he sleeps in his office sometimes?
Posted by KLSU
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:12 pm to
Facts are not real!
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

2003 132.6 10 8 Auburn (QB coach only)*



he was co-OC along with Hugh Nall, so he is at least 50% responsible for the shite sandwich the offense that season was with a backfield with two top NFL draft picks at RB and another great NFL RB on top of that, and an NFL QB.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:13 pm to
Eric Zeier
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He is a former record-setting quarterback and Heisman Trophy candidate at the University of Georgia, where he set 67 school records and 18 S.E.C. records. In 1994, he became the most prolific passer in the history of the Southeastern Conference as well as only the third quarterback in NCAA Division I history to throw for more than 11,000 yards in his career. He earned All-Academic S.E.C. honors in 1992 and 1993 and was named UGA Team Captain in 1993 and 1994.
Posted by bayoubengalfan4life
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:19 pm to
E can coach qbs probably better than anyone lsu has had n a while. He was a qb and has coached qbs. As an OC I'm not sure he can get it done though.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:19 pm to
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E can coach qbs probably better than anyone lsu has had n a while. He was a qb and has coached qbs. As an OC I'm not sure he can get it done though.


I agree with this. He's probably a solid QB coach.

Never been a good OC though.
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:20 pm to
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In his three seasons as A&M’s coordinator, Ensminger took the Aggies from 61st in total offense to 33rd. One report indicated head coach R.C. Slocum fired Ensminger after a “difference of opinions.” He was one of three coaches Slocum dismissed after a 6-6 season.


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As quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator at Georgia, Ensminger developed the gem of his coaching career. Quarterback Eric Zeier led the Southeastern Conference in passing in 1992 and in total offense in 1993. The Bulldogs won 19 games in Ensminger’s first two seasons calling plays, and he turned that into the offensive coordinator position with Texas A&M in 1994.


From an advocate article.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Eric Zeier


SE was at UGA last in 1993, 25 years ago.

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In his three seasons as A&M’s coordinator, Ensminger took the Aggies from 61st in total offense to 33rd


He was last at TAMU in 1996.

Please note everyone what O did as as a Head Coach from 2005-2007 was totally irrelevant in evaluating him as HC after the 2016 season. But SE developed 1 QB 25 years ago, and improved the Aggie offense from the 60s all the way up to the 30s 22 years ago!!!!!! totally relevant. We coming!!!!!
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:20 pm to
Eric Zeier for sure.

Made a big jump his Junior year. Probably what got Wnsminger the A&M job.

Sorta a long time ago though.
Posted by 8miles
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:21 pm to
Y.A. Tittle!
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:23 pm to
What does coached up mean exactly?
Posted by yaherrdme
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Ensminger coached QB:

1991 Georgia (Eric Zeier; set 67 school and 18 SEC records including school and SEC all-time passing leader & 3rd round draft pick)

1992 Georgia (Eric Zeier; see above)

1993 Georgia (Eric Zeier; see above)

1994 Texas A&M (Corey Pullig; undefeated season, no bowl due to sanctions, winningest QB from aTm at 33-6-1, set aTm career passing yards record)

1995 Texas A&M (Corey Pullig; see above)

1996 Texas A&M (Brandon Stewart; led to 1st Aggies Big12 Championship and BCS Bowl, rest is meh)

1997 Clemson (Nealon Greene; became Clemson career leader in passing yards)

1998 Clemson (Woodrow Dantzler; passed Greene as Clemson career passing yards leader & 15th overall pick in draft)

2003 Auburn (Jason Campbell; QB of undefeated 2004 Auburn & 25th overall pick in draft, 2nd in career passing yards at Auburn)

One third were first rounders. 4 of 6 set career passing records at school (5th was 2nd for career). 2 QBs had undefeated seasons.


Stolen from this thread LINK
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:26 pm to
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SE was at UGA last in 1993, 25 years ago


Look up.

Neither the subject line of the thread or the OP state it has to be within a certain date. He just wanted the name of one QB that Slinger developed.

If he had asked for two I would have found out who the A&M QB was when Slinger took the A&M offense from ranking in the 60's to 33rd.

If this is too difficult for you to understand let me know and I will try to explain it in a different manner.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:27 pm to
Not to mention hes a former QB in every offensive meeting and every practice and our QBs stunk.

I know that's not necessarily his job, but no way he never had input or never spoke to the QBs.

His importance was noted by Miles because he was one of the guys that broke down film. And still, our offense stunk.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:29 pm to
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Eric Zeier


So 1 QB over 24 years ago, who had QB passer ratings of:

1991 137.8
1992 148.3
1993 137.5

His average QB ratings under Ensminger was 141.2, which is a whopping less than 2 points higher than LSU's average in the past 6 years not including 2011, which would make the average higher than his.

In his junior and senior years, Zieir threw over 420+ passes each season, which is more than 100 above LSU's entire team average annually the past 20 years and nearly 100 more than Rohan's prolific 2001 season and Russell's 2006 season. Note that was in less games too.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

E can coach qbs probably better than anyone lsu has had n a while. He was a qb and has coached qbs. As an OC I'm not sure he can get it done though.


Umm... He's not even close to Kragthorpe.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

From an advocate article.


Again, that is over 24 years ago. He failed everywhere else he went and with basically every other QB he worked with.

People were killing Crowton and Cameron for living off the success of their one great QB's. Now for Ensminger, it is proof of his capabilities as a great QB coach.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:32 pm to
To be fair to Ensminger, Slocum was more conservative than Les, and the Wrecking Crew was strong enough that they didn't need to take many chances on offense.

Clemson on the other hand...

quote:

While West’s losses cannot be totally blamed on his recruiting, because he picked some horrible offensive coordinators (Moody, Ensminger) and had a ton of off-the-field issues, these problems do paint his tenure a bit differently.

quote:

Looking back now, what would you have done differently in your five years as head coach?

West. "If I could do it now, #1, I wouldn't have messed up the bowl game in 1995. I wouldn't have taken those kids to Daytona. I really messed that thing up. We had been on a roll and I messed that up. #2, I would have given Rick Stockstill the offensive coordinator job in 1996. I messed that up...badly. It's not like what we were doing in 1995 was broken. We were on the verge that year of becoming really good on offense at a place where there hadn't been a lot of good offensive teams. And #3, find a way to win one of those big games in the bowl. We just weren't able to get LSU and Auburn, but we could have. We just didn't win those games. We couldn't win that game and get over the hump."

LINK
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