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Burrow's Numbers Vs Past Greats
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:24 am
(Updated) Obviously Burrow has put up some incredible numbers this season but I wanted some perspective. I wanted to compare Joe's stats so far this season to some of the past college greats. I wasn't ready for this...
'19 Burrow - 268-341, 3,687 yards, 38 TDs, 6 Int, 78.6% completion percentage
'96 Wuerffel - 207-360, 3,625 yards, 39 TDs, 13 Int, 57.5%
'97 Manning - 287-477, 3,819 yards, 36 TDs, 11 Int, 60.2%
'97 Leaf - 227-410, 3,968 yards, 34 TDs, 11 Int, 55.4%
So with two games to go Burrow has almost matched the season totals for these guys. These are just a few QBs that popped in my head for comparison. I'm sure he's exceeded the numbers of several great college QBs of the past.
'19 Burrow - 268-341, 3,687 yards, 38 TDs, 6 Int, 78.6% completion percentage
'96 Wuerffel - 207-360, 3,625 yards, 39 TDs, 13 Int, 57.5%
'97 Manning - 287-477, 3,819 yards, 36 TDs, 11 Int, 60.2%
'97 Leaf - 227-410, 3,968 yards, 34 TDs, 11 Int, 55.4%
So with two games to go Burrow has almost matched the season totals for these guys. These are just a few QBs that popped in my head for comparison. I'm sure he's exceeded the numbers of several great college QBs of the past.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 12:05 pm
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:30 am to bignic26
quote:against teams he should be able to pass on at will.
with three games to go
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:31 am to bignic26
You could discount the yardage stats somewhat because of how offenses are run these days and the fact that the rules are even more tilted in favor of the offense than they were in the 90's. But the stat that jumps off the page is the completion percentage. Almost 80% is an absurd and mind-blowing number. Joe's accuracy is Brees-like. And it's not just that he's throwing completions. He's hitting his guys right in stride so that they can keep running and add on some YAC.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:35 am to bignic26
Those completion percentage numbers are shocking. The rules and modern offenses obviously favor the QBs, but damn....
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:35 am to bignic26
'08 Bradford: 328/483, 4,720 yards, 50 TD, 8 INT, 67.9%
^Most absurd pasing season in modern era IMO.
^Most absurd pasing season in modern era IMO.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:40 am to Lou Pai
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^Most absurd pasing season in modern era IMO.
we're in the midst of it. and it's being done by LSU's QB
:mindblown:
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:40 am to bignic26
A minimum of 5 games left and a possible 6 lol.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:48 am to KingofthePoint
quote:I don't agree that the rules, on the whole, favor the current offenses as much as some say. For instance, all the arm and hand grabbing that is allowed by DBs today would have been heavily flagged years ago.
Those completion percentage numbers are shocking. The rules and modern offenses obviously favor the QBs, but damn....
I think the biggest difference is Jugs machine reps. Now we have 8 or 10 WRs on every team making extremely difficult catches - and make them look routine. In the old days, maybe one or two WRs could make those catches.
And now, WR are getting more reps in a season than they'd have gotten in a career in the old days (except for a few complete workout nuts)
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Buckeye Jeaux
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I think the biggest difference is Jugs machine reps.
never change, my dude.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:54 am to MountainTiger
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You could discount the yardage stats somewhat because of how offenses are run these days and the fact that the rules are even more tilted in favor of the offense than they were in the 90's
That's true but at the same time you have to look at attempts. Wuerffel had 61 more attempts, Leaf had 111 more, and Manning had 178 more. And we're talking about full seasons versus 9 games. That's just mind blowing to me.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:57 am to bignic26
quote:No comparison. Different era. The only comparisons that are valid are OU quarterbacks from the past 10 years and Haskins.
Obviously Burrow has put up some incredible numbers this season but I wanted some perspective. I wanted to compare Joe's stats so far this season to some of the past college greats. I wasn't ready for this...
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:57 am to Lou Pai
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^Most absurd pasing season in modern era IMO.
Asterisk Big12.
Stidham in Big 12 - Heisman candidate.
Stidham in SEC - Middle tier QB.
Hurts in SEC - sub-par passer gets replaced.
Hurts in Big 12 - amazing passer, Heisman candidate.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 10:59 am to bignic26
One of my posts from September:
Objectively, is college football a hell of a lot more entertaining now?Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:09 pm
Objectively, is college football a hell of a lot more entertaining now?Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:09 pm
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Or is it just different?
I grew up as a young kid in the 90s and idolized everything about the sport. From logos and colors to rivalries and stats.
What I thought was good back then really isn't when compared to today's standards. I think it all changed around 2008. Last years three QB competition was gawdy.
I was thinking about Joey Harrington because of a stupid post on the rant. He finished 3rd in the Heisman rankings with some fairly pedestrian statistics.
Eric Crouch won that year. Yeah he could run, but 7tds and 10 int?!
Then I started looking around...
Even Danny Weurffel who I considered a god back then had a terrible completion percentage.
207/360 57.5%
3,625 yds
39 tds 13 int
Those numbers are okay. That 3:1 td:int ratio was considered good back then. Now it's more like 8:1 for elite qbs!
Joe Burrow's stats are light years better than what Danny Weurffel's were. I never thought I'd be able to say that about an LSU qb. But hell, I think Jamarcus was too. '
Anyway, carry on.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:02 am to bignic26
Troy Smith won the Heisman with a record 91.6% first place votes. That's a record landslide vote. Joe has already destroyed his numbers from that season.
'06 Smith - 203-311, 2,542 yards, 30 TDs, 6 Int, 65.3%, 204 yards rushing, 1 TD
'19 Burrow - 236-299, 3,198 yards, 33 TDs, 4 Int, 78.9%, 189 yards rushing, 3 TDs
'06 Smith - 203-311, 2,542 yards, 30 TDs, 6 Int, 65.3%, 204 yards rushing, 1 TD
'19 Burrow - 236-299, 3,198 yards, 33 TDs, 4 Int, 78.9%, 189 yards rushing, 3 TDs
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:18 am to bignic26
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That's true but at the same time you have to look at attempts. Wuerffel had 61 more attempts, Leaf had 111 more, and Manning had 178 more. And we're talking about full seasons versus 9 games. That's just mind blowing to me.
Yep and that's because of the accuracy. The bottom line is that Joe is a more efficient QB. He's getting more yards out of every pass attempt because he's completing more of them and getting more out of the ones he completes.
The other thing that impresses me about him (and this is getting a little off topic) is his ability to make quick decisions correctly. I've always said that the difference between good QBs and great ones is not arm strength or any of that. Nearly all QBs in the NFL or the upper echelon of CFB have good arms. The difference to me is the ability to quickly process a lot of information and make a good decision about where to go with the ball. QB is a position mostly played between the ears and Joe has a great football IQ.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:20 am to bayoubengals88
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No comparison. Different era.
You're right. There is no comparison. It's not fair to past greats to have their entire season compared to Joe's 9 games.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:26 am to Lou Pai
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'08 Bradford: 328/483, 4,720 yards, 50 TD, 8 INT, 67.9%
^Most absurd pasing season in modern era IMO
Not counting my chickens, but with a possibility of 6 games remaining, JB is on pace to surpass these numbers too.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:36 am to sportsfan
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Not counting my chickens, but with a possibility of 6 games remaining, JB is on pace to surpass these numbers too.
If he does have 6 games left to play, he could average less than 300 and a little less than 3 tds and surpass those numbers.
In fact if he plays 6, and averages 300 a game, that would put him at 4,998!
Second all time is achievable, Ty Detmer holds that spot with 5,188,
The current record tho is 5,833 by BJ Symons of Texas Tech in '03
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:38 am to West Palm Tiger561
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minimum of 5 games left and a possible 6 lol.
i agree, but we technically haven’t clinched the west yet.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:42 am to bignic26
hard to compare QBs from 20+ years ago to ones today. Offenses are completely different.
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