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re: Burrow's Numbers Vs Past Greats

Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:48 am to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:48 am to
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78.9% completion percentage


this is absolute madness right here.

Im not sure most realize how stupid this stat is.

Sick.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4709 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:49 am to
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Those completion percentage numbers are shocking. The rules and modern offenses obviously favor the QBs, but damn....


yeah he's currently over 2% above Colt McCoy's record and he was 2.4% over 3rd place so McCoy's record was pretty crazy in and of itself. Now couple it with McCoy's record was throwing 8.9yds/att vs Burrow's 10.7 and it highlights just how crazy Burrow is this year. Unless something drastically changes he's having arguably the best season by a QB in NCAA history.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1586 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:52 am to
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I think the biggest difference is Jugs machine reps.

never change, my dude.


This is some next level insight and analysis
Posted by pufftiger
baton rouge
Member since Aug 2006
349 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:54 am to
And under pressure! If you blitz, you pay!
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:54 am to
Brees.



Saints should pull a Ricky Williams sell the farm trade to nab burrow and let him learn under Brees for a couple years.
Posted by doze4
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Member since Aug 2007
1840 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:57 am to
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Saints should pull a Ricky Williams sell the farm trade to nab burrow and let him learn under Brees for a couple years.





Bridgewater and Saints first round pick . Would that do it ?
You think LSU/Saints fans would be going apeshit if they announced that to start the draft ?!
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:59 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:03 pm to
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I think the biggest difference is Jugs machine reps.

quote:


never change, my dude.


LSU's WRs have said (in video interviews) that the 10,000 reps on the Jugs machine made the greatest difference in the WRs immediate and dramatic improvement...

But don't let direct statements from LSU's WR's get in the way of a Rant false narrative.

This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28120 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:07 pm to
That's right. Hopefully he can meet that standard. Would be comically absurd to see an LSU QB do it.
Posted by GumbOrgeron
Member since Feb 2018
1426 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:09 pm to
Colton Brennan in 2006 was pretty insane, though a little easier competition.
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Brennan posted a 182.8 passer rating while completing 72 percent of his passes for a ridiculous 5,549 yards and 58 TDs and 12 interceptions
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Saints should pull a Ricky Williams sell the farm trade to nab burrow and let him learn under Brees for a couple years.

Joe would certainly be more deserving of such a move than Ricky or Herschel. I'd be 100% in favor of it.
Posted by bignic26
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2013
823 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:16 pm to
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hard to compare QBs from 20+ years ago to ones today. Offenses are completely different.


Ironically the record holder for most yards in a season is Tim Couch who played 22 years ago. Here's his stat line from '97...

'97 Couch - 400-553, 4,275 yards, 36 TDs, 15 Int, 72.3%

'19 Burrow - 236-299, 3,198 yards, 33 TDs, 4 Int, 78.9%

Joe is going to break that record. The record for TD passes in a season is 44 by Drew Lock. Joe will break that one too.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4709 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Ironically the record holder for most yards in a season is Tim Couch who played 22 years ago. Here's his stat line from '97...

'97 Couch - 400-553, 4,275 yards, 36 TDs, 15 Int, 72.3%

'19 Burrow - 236-299, 3,198 yards, 33 TDs, 4 Int, 78.9%

Joe is going to break that record. The record for TD passes in a season is 44 by Drew Lock. Joe will break that one too.


Yeah Couch can be compared somewhat because he was under Mumme and his offense is still being successfully used today.
Posted by lsufornc3
Member since Dec 2011
275 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:31 pm to
And he has the Ohio St. pedigree in the past which the Saints seem to like.
Posted by cittizinsrat
Member since Aug 2017
668 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:25 pm to
Expanding Joe's averages through the remainder of the season would be:

(318-399) 4,264 YRDs. 44 TDs 5 INTs


Expanding again through the hypothetical championship run:

(390-496) 5,325 YRDs 55 TDs 7 INTs
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:48 pm to
Let me extrapolate for you.

Assuming his numbers hold and there's no reason for us to think that they won't, and he makes it to the national championship game. Here are his numbers on the season

'19 Burrow - 4,975 yards, 51 TDs, 6 Int, 78.9%, 367/465, 10.7 YPA

... and he isn't even going to face another defense like Auburn which really hurt his numbers

quote:



'06 Brennan - 5,549 yards, 58 TDs, 12 Int, 72%, 406/559, 9.9 YPA

'08 Bradford - 4,720 yards, 50 TDs, 8 Int, 67.9%, 328/483, 9.8 YPA

'97 Couch - 4,275 yards, 36 TDs, 15 Int, 72.3%, 400/553, 7.7 YPA

'97 Manning - 3,819 yards, 36 TDs, 11 Int, 60.2%, 287/477, 8.0 YPA

'96 Wuerffel - 3,625 yards, 39 TDs, 13 Int, 57.5%, 207/360, 10.1 YPA

'97 Leaf - 3,968 yards, 34 TDs, 11 Int, 55.4%, 227/410, 9.7 YPA



ETA: shite. yall beat me to it.

ETA: Brennan and Burrow actually have a matching opponent. Obviously, there are a ton of variables here and InB4 'transitive property' but here are the numbers.

'06 Brennan vs Alabama - 350 yards, 2 TDs, 1 Int, 68.2%, 30/44, 8.0 YPA
'19 Burrow vs. Alabama - 393 yards, 3 TDs, 0 Int, 79.5%, 31/39, 10.1 YPA

And suffice it to say that a Mike Shula coached, 6-7, 2006 Alabama team is not a Nick Saban coached, 2019 Alabama team.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 4:08 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:52 pm to
I'd be going ape with joy
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:53 pm to
quote:


I think the biggest difference is Jugs machine reps




Buckeye Joe is the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13863 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:55 pm to
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Troy Smith won the Heisman with a record 91.6% first place votes. That's a record landslide vote. Joe has already destroyed his numbers from that season.


'06 Smith - 203-311, 2,542 yards, 30 TDs, 6 Int, 65.3%, 204 yards rushing, 1 TD


'19 Burrow - 236-299, 3,198 yards, 33 TDs, 4 Int, 78.9%, 189 yards rushing, 3 TDs


I can only get so erect...
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75215 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:55 pm to
Regardless of his level of competition or lack thereof, what Colt Brennan did at Hawaii is amazing
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Regardless of his level of competition or lack thereof, what Colt Brennan did at Hawaii is amazing


It absolutely is but schedule and level of competition definitely matters. Put Burrow in the offense against that competition and what happens?
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