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re: Brody Miller on Myles Brennan
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:11 am to Captain Crown
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:11 am to Captain Crown
so this is what our offense needed. Not a decent oline?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:12 am to kengel2
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Is that why he got worse?
Well he went from having Brandon Aiyuk, a NFL WR in his freshman year, to having a bunch of nobody's on his team. So yeah
You tend to play bad when you have bad players around you. We saw what he could do with good WRs. Now he gets to play with the best WR in college football
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:13 am to themunch
Did you miss the last recruiting class? One of the best oline classes we’ve had in awhile.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:13 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:15 am to Alt26
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A 3 year starter at another power conf. school doesn't transfer to a school without some degree of assurances he will start next season. Otherwise, he would have gone elsewhere (I'm sure LSU wasn't the only school "recruiting" him). Perhaps it lights a fire under Brennan and he shows he is clearly the best QB of the 4 in spring ball. But just like LSU did not get Burrow simply for "depth". I don't think they went out and signed Dainels for "depth" either.
What's missing here is Brennan is in his last year of eligibility while Daniels has 2 years left. So I dont think any assurances needed to be made. Daniels know hiw main competition is Brennan this year, if he doesnt win the job, he still has another year. So that is a big factor I bet.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:16 am to LSUdude247
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Well he went from having Brandon Aiyuk, a NFL WR in his freshman year, to having a bunch of nobody's on his team. So yeah
Have you looked at their receivers? They arent exactly a bunch of nobodies.
They arent Boutte, but they arent as crap as you say.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:17 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:18 am to Alt26
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A 3 year starter at another power conf. school doesn't transfer to a school without some degree of assurances he will start next season.
NO ONE has that assurance! He is told to come in and compete and the best will play. NO ONE is told they will be the starter.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:21 am to LSUdude247
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Well he went from having Brandon Aiyuk, a NFL WR in his freshman year, to having a bunch of nobody's on his team. So yeah
You tend to play bad when you have bad players around you. We saw what he could do with good WRs. Now he gets to play with the best WR in college football
This isn't my opinion, but PFF's grade of ASU WRs this past season, so it isolates their performance regardless of the QB back there
His Top 3 receivers were by far these guys:
Ricky Pearsall - 67.5 grade
Bryan Thompson - 53.0 grade
LV Bunkley-Shelton - 69.0 grade
These 2 guys also played a singificant facotr at WR:
Andre Johnson - 61.7 grade
Johnny Wilson - 63.7 grade
Overall, thats an above average WR corps with a 60.0 grade being completely average in their grading system. Now they didnt have a single elite WR (80+ grade) or even a single good/very good receiver (70-79 grade)...so there's that as well. Really not a bad group of receivers though.
Just for comparison, here was our group of main receivers this year:
Kayshon Boutte - 75.8 grade
Jack Bech - 74.7 grade
Jaray Jenkins - 68.0 grade
Brian Thomas Jr - 62.7 grade
Trey Palmer - 59.3 grade
Malik Nabers - 70.1 grade
Devonta Lee - 59.7 grade
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:22 am to Captain Crown
Well, if he doesn't want competition then he needs to go.
Allegiance to LSU aside, TEAM is first. Not a knock on MB but play the best.
Allegiance to LSU aside, TEAM is first. Not a knock on MB but play the best.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:25 am to thunderbird1100
quote:Absolutely. But Brennan is going to have to earn that year here. Against some tough competition. And he’ll have to do it in the spring imo or it’s in his best interest to transfer.
What's missing here is Brennan is in his last year of eligibility while Daniels has 2 years left. So I dont think any assurances needed to be made. Daniels know hiw main competition is Brennan this year, if he doesnt win the job, he still has another year. So that is a big factor I bet.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:26 am to Captain Crown
Brody Miller is a shite-stirring douche.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:32 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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swear if BK runs off Brennan who’s waited his turn unlike many guys in today’s college game he can kick rocks. I don’t like this kid coming here at all - this is Brennan’s year period. Give Nuss one more shot as the backup with Howard getting in 4 games.
Wtf is this shite? Daniels was brought in to compete for the starting job. It’s denbrocks preference to have a dual threat qb , if myles isn’t much better with his arm than Daniels then Daniels will start and nuss will transfer .
Myles realizes that he’s got to beat out someone to get the job , no matter where he plays . Daniels and Brennan both have 2 years left , correct? I doubt they both go to the nfl after this season, whoever goes to the nfl or transfers ,then the other one will be the starter the following season.
I’m not buying Brennan leaving until after spring if its obvious he’s not starting this year. This Daniels kid is absolutely a mike denbrock move more so than Kelly . He didn’t know that he would get Daniels when he got Brennan to come back.
All Kelly wants is to win, why would that piss you off?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:33 am to Gus Tinsley
quote:perhaps this is true, because if a player completely stinks it up, a coach can't be bound by an assurance.
NO ONE has that assurance! He is told to come in and compete and the best will play. NO ONE is told they will be the starter.
However, I'd assume that Kelly told Daniels he's not sold on Brennan and Daniels would have a very good chance to start here in 2022.
No assurance, but a statement that he may have a leg up in the QB competition.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:33 am to abellsujr
I thought Brennan still had 2 because of the injury , covid, and redshirt season
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:36 am to Tigerpride18
quote:correct.
All Kelly wants is to win, why would that piss you off?
A coach's loyalty is to the PROGRAM, not to an individual player.
Best man plays, period.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:37 am to Tigerpride18
I thought it was one.
But even so, what’s the likelihood he starts in his second year if Daniels wins the job this year? We know Daniels isn’t transferring. If Daniels wins, he’ll likely be the starter with (hopefully) walker pushing him in 2023. Brennan will likely transfer regardless.
But even so, what’s the likelihood he starts in his second year if Daniels wins the job this year? We know Daniels isn’t transferring. If Daniels wins, he’ll likely be the starter with (hopefully) walker pushing him in 2023. Brennan will likely transfer regardless.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:37 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:38 am to Alt26
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A 3 year starter at another power conf. school doesn't transfer to a school without some degree of assurances he will start next season.
Didn’t we get a transfer from Penn State a couple years back that never sniffed the starting spot? Bolden?
He may not have been a 3 year starter, but he had started some games for Penn State prior to transferring if I remember correctly.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:43 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I was coming to say this. Daniels could sit next year and still have 2 years. I think this is more of a Jameis Winston situation than a plug and play. Jameis was the most physically talented QB on the Saints roster the day he stepped in the room. And there was still 0 chance he would get any significant playing time that first year. You look at Daniels is a similar situation. Uber talented. Dynamic first year showing potential for greatness. Lack of receivers and coaching instability stunted his growth. Few personality questions but nothing that would make him untouchable.
The performance he would have to put on in Spring is about equal to what Jameis would have had to do to beat out Drew. If he does that then he should be the starter. But even when Joe came here, he had to get into a fight with the best player on the team to take the team away from Brennan. If Daniels is gonna come in like that he deserves the gig. Anything short of that and it'll be Brennan.
The performance he would have to put on in Spring is about equal to what Jameis would have had to do to beat out Drew. If he does that then he should be the starter. But even when Joe came here, he had to get into a fight with the best player on the team to take the team away from Brennan. If Daniels is gonna come in like that he deserves the gig. Anything short of that and it'll be Brennan.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:44 am to 5iveEuax4eaux
quote:Big difference is lsu doesn’t have a Drew Brees in the room.
Saints
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:45 am to atltiger6487
He has the leg up already because mike denbrock has already said that his offense it’s at it’s best with a dual threat guy. It’s a tweet he made a while back that I’m referring to.
They will both compete for the job but Daniels is so similar to Desmond Ritter that it kind of shows that Daniels has the leg up in the battle
Also, Daniels is much more experienced as a starter in college than myles. Both are starting from scratch because neither has ran the offense before.
Daniels had a higher grade coming out of high school than myles and he actually had a higher grade than walker Howard ever since they dropped howard down to a high 4 star . I think howard is about number 4 or 5 now in rankings and Daniels was number two I believe.
Then you’ve got Daniels having only one season with a good team around him and in that one season ,as a freshman , he had probably the best freshman season in pac 12 recent history . That season he had 17 tds to 2 ints and also ran for a lot of yards.
Since then it’s been covid and then this past year they ran him a lot because they had no receivers. He had 700 yards .
Daniels has the edge coming into spring , but myles may be back to being his old self and his arm may be too talented to bench, who knows ? I just know the way denbrock coaches that offense and Daniels is the proto type for that offense. Myles will have a huge year if he wins the job because he’s going into it behind
They will both compete for the job but Daniels is so similar to Desmond Ritter that it kind of shows that Daniels has the leg up in the battle
Also, Daniels is much more experienced as a starter in college than myles. Both are starting from scratch because neither has ran the offense before.
Daniels had a higher grade coming out of high school than myles and he actually had a higher grade than walker Howard ever since they dropped howard down to a high 4 star . I think howard is about number 4 or 5 now in rankings and Daniels was number two I believe.
Then you’ve got Daniels having only one season with a good team around him and in that one season ,as a freshman , he had probably the best freshman season in pac 12 recent history . That season he had 17 tds to 2 ints and also ran for a lot of yards.
Since then it’s been covid and then this past year they ran him a lot because they had no receivers. He had 700 yards .
Daniels has the edge coming into spring , but myles may be back to being his old self and his arm may be too talented to bench, who knows ? I just know the way denbrock coaches that offense and Daniels is the proto type for that offense. Myles will have a huge year if he wins the job because he’s going into it behind
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:48 am to Magician2
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What I don't understand is why did Kelly settle for Daniels? There were plenty of quality QBs in the portal to go after before Daniels.
What do you even mean by this? Just bcuz they had better QBs in the portal doesn't mean they wanted to come to LSU. Brian Kelly could've recruited the hell out of the QBs in the portal, but in the end it's the players decision.
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