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re: Brian Kelly is Delusional

Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:47 am to
Posted by lsutigers23
Member since Jan 2009
661 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:47 am to
Or if our defense was dead last except that year it wasn’t. 2020 and 2021 were odd years for a lot of elite programs because of Covid or whatever else. 2 years removed those programs are back competing and we have the worse defense in the country.

Y’all say we gave away the ole miss game, that’s bs we lost that game, if that the case then we very well should have lost the Missouri and Arkansas game.
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
754 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:47 am to
Brian Kelly has a 10 year deal mostly guaranteed. He’s going to be allowed to build the program as he sees fit. All of this complaining is useless.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56415 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:49 am to
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dudes trying to pretend like he took over a middle of the pack college football program
he took over a program in shambles.


I’m not happy with the defense. But if you can’t see program progress you probably don’t critically think very well
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:50 am to
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Are you actually complaining about this? Do you realize how hard it is to do that?


The large part of this fanbase that wasn’t around for the 90s and before is fricking soft and spoiled as hell.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:58 am to
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Yep. What’s his record against top 10 teams as LSU coach? FSU was 11 last year to start but it was a big game


So we’re supposed to go from less than .500 over two seasons to beating every top 10 team we play in less than 2 seasons?

It would be one thing if we were getting blown the frick out in all of these games. We beat Ole Miss (top 10 or close when we played them) and Bama last year. We’ve had 3rd quarter leads in all three games this year.

Is it disappointing to not finish any of those games off? frick yeah it is. Will this same record be acceptable two years from now? Absolutely not. But this isn’t a top 10 team in terms of talent, even as good as the offense is. The defense has major holes beyond the coaching problems.

Kelly has to fix all of this, but there’s no magic wand here. Most of us overrated this team before the season, especially the defense. It’s pretty easy to see how short-sighted that was.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8878 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:02 am to
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This dudes trying to pretend like he took over a middle of the pack college football program and is trying make them national contenders for this first time ever.

What the hell do you think he inherited? It was a fricking dumpster fire.
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if he hadn’t lucked out with Jayden Daniels

Oh yeah! He totally lucked out! He didn’t identify a talented guy and bring him in and develop him.

skuter isn’t the only dumbass in this thread. OP you’re a damn special kind of stupid too. In fact, it’s actually impressive just how stupid you are.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17806 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:02 am to
They were 7 when we played them.

quote:

Daniels ran for three touchdowns and passed for two scores, and LSU roared back from an early two-touchdown deficit to hand No. 7 Mississippi its first loss this season, 45-20 on Saturday.


LINK

This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 8:04 am
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:03 am to
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Or if our defense was dead last except that year it wasn’t. 2020 and 2021 were odd years for a lot of elite programs because of Covid or whatever else. 2 years removed those programs are back competing and we have the worse defense in the country.


Last year’s defense was a mirage. We were fortunate to have just enough good vets (BJ, Baskerville, Roy) and hit on pretty much every portal vet we brought in. This year, all of them were gone except for Brooks and he played in one game. None of the portal guys have been as good as JBC, Garner, Foucha or Brooks were and we’ve had a ton of injuries to the guys who can make a difference.

Unfortunately, these players also covered for many House’s deficiencies, like being inflexible and not having a fricking clue how to effectively get talented young players on the field.

You are a fricking idiot who keeps changing and reframing the argument just to keep being a little bitch. Stay on the sidewalk where you belong.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 8:05 am
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6143 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:03 am to
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We beat Ole Miss (top 10 or close

Not even ranked

quote:

So we’re supposed to go from less than .500 over two seasons to beating every top 10 team we play in less than 2 seasons?

When you’re getting elite coach money more
than 1 OT win is expected. We’re stuck with this guy because Woodward made a bad hire.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:04 am to
10 million a year . Would it be ok if we just decided to pay him 3 million. Of course not.

Not acceptable.

They need to start relooking at how they do contracts. For every game you win you get a million dollars period. ( just an example)For a loss=0 dollars. SECCG Appearance 2 million and a win 5 million. That would light a fire under a coach’s rear.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 8:08 am
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17806 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:04 am to
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Not even ranked


You’re wrong about this—it’s been confirmed. I’ll admit we need to do better under BK and I’ll be concerned if we regress further next year if you acknowledge you had misinformation.

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We’re stuck with this guy because Woodward made a bad hire.


And who should we have hired? Did you think this last year about this time?
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 8:10 am
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:06 am to
All the sidewalk casuals are coming out for this thread.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8878 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:08 am to
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Not even ranked

You have twice now been presented with rock solid proof that they were 7-1 and ranked 7th when we beat them in 2022, yet you sit here and continue to state that they were unranked.

How. fricking. STUPID. Are you???
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57289 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:08 am to
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2020 and 2021 were odd years for a lot of elite programs because of Covid or whatever else.


2020 and 2021 were odd years because Orgeron was a dumbass, not because of COVID.
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6143 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:11 am to
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You’re wrong about this

Yep, they were #7. The site I pulled that pic from was wrong.

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I’ll be concerned if we regress further next year if you acknowledge you had misinformation.

Start getting comcerned with that schedule next year
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 8:13 am
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8878 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:12 am to
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Nix to Twillie

You and I have both presented documented proof that Ole Miss was ranked 7th when we played them but he continues to stick with his statement. It’s beyond ridiculous.

A quick glance at the graphic he posted shows that LSU was ranked 16th in each game listed. Should’ve been pretty easy to realize that those were end of year rankings.

I don’t think we’re dealing with a Rhodes scholar here.

ETA: Okay!! He finally caught on.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 8:13 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89584 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:13 am to
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He basically started from scratch.


Fair enough, but what responsibility does he bear, if any in your mind, for the worst defense in LSU history?
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17806 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:13 am to
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Would it be ok if we just decided to pay him 3 million


Of the top 25 highest paid coaches in college football, no one gets paid under 6.3 million. Kyle Whittingham of Utah would make more than twice what you would want to pay BK.




This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 8:17 am
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11431 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:15 am to
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8878 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:15 am to
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Yep, they were #7. The site I pulled that pic from was wrong.

It wasn’t wrong. Those were end-of-season rankings. Should’ve been pretty easy to figure out.

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Start getting comcerned with that schedule next year

Can’t help but throw in more negativity.
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