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re: Beth Torina’s incompetence just reared it’s ugly head!
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:27 am to moneyg
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:27 am to moneyg
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Torina should be extended. You people who can’t differentiate a legitimate mistake (even an unforced on) with incompetence are funny. If you’ve watched softball enough, you’ve seen this happen before.
I’ve seen this happen just a few times. Problem is, it’s been Torina every time and not the opposing coach. First time I recall, she forgot to renter Kloss against Miss St, I think, and it absolutely cost us the game.
She does not have the softball coaching it factor and unfortunately when she didn’t win it all in 15 or 16, she blew her best chance that she will ever have.
Time to cut bait.
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:36 am to tigerbait2010
quote:Agreed. In her previous 13 seasons at LSU she has averaged a 13-11 conference record.
she’s gregarious, she’s a great ambassador, but in the end the program is never a serious contender and deceptively not even close.
I like Beth. She seems like a really nice person. But she runs an average program. She piles up the victories against cupcakes and then bottoms out when conference play rolls around. LSU is 5-9 this season against top teams. They simply are not competitive against the better programs.
I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:43 am to TigerDCC11
Bergeron caught in the bottom of the previous inning so she probably thought she was re-entered
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:58 am to Casualobserver1985
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Bergeron caught in the bottom of the previous inning so she probably thought she was re-entered
Which I am sure Arkansas was well aware of and waited for the exact opportunity to get the result they wanted. There is no coincidence why they waited until after the first pitch to Bergeron, with no outs, bases loaded, up by 4. That’s what good coaches do.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:02 am to TX Tiger
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She piles up the victories against cupcakes
Incorrect. LSU always has a top 10 non-conference strength of schedule.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:07 am to Asleepinthecove
Agree 100% …I was just saying Bergeron probably assumed she was re-entered
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:09 am to LSUGrad9295
This may be correct for previous yrs, this yr it’s 27
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:17 am to Casualobserver1985
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This may be correct for previous yrs, this yr it’s 27
Even still that's hardly cupcakes,
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:18 am to Asleepinthecove
This type of behavior (and allowance of it) is bush league. If a player "re-enters" the game on defense and no one says anything at that time then by pure simple logic she should be able to bat her next time up in the order. Who else is going to bat? Arkansas coaches are a bunch of cry babies. Their head coach looks like a little bitch. Waiting until the exact moment Bergeron takes a pitch is good coaching but also asinine IMHO. What if Bergeron would have hit a grand slam? Would it have counted? Seeing their coach run towards umpire was childish. WTF? Such drama.....
Anyways, what a game! Give the Lady Tigers props for making it a very close contest after 1st inning. So many opportunities! Leaving 15 runners on base has got to be close to a record. Hell - that's 2+ per inning! Leaving bases loaded in 1st 2 innings didn't help.
Our hopeful freshman of the year in SEC didn't do herself any favors by not getting a single hit all game - especially in key RBI situations every at bat. She did walk and have SAC fly but could have done much more.
I'll say it again - this team is must watch TV. Their position players are excellent and they compete. Down 7-0 after 1 inning and they battled and battled to the end. Was disappointed in 7th inning at bats. Their ace you know is just going to throw strikes. That's exactly what she did. Batters got behind w 2 strikes and were not productive. I would have told them to swing away w 1st good pitch (like batter did w 2 outs).
Looking forward to game later today. They'll be fine. SEC softball is loaded w about 10 very, very good teams. LSU is 1 of them. They have played a very tough schedule and are battle tested. May not get a top 8 seeding but rest assured they will make for excellent viewing. Proud of the effort! Geaux Tigers!
Anyways, what a game! Give the Lady Tigers props for making it a very close contest after 1st inning. So many opportunities! Leaving 15 runners on base has got to be close to a record. Hell - that's 2+ per inning! Leaving bases loaded in 1st 2 innings didn't help.
Our hopeful freshman of the year in SEC didn't do herself any favors by not getting a single hit all game - especially in key RBI situations every at bat. She did walk and have SAC fly but could have done much more.
I'll say it again - this team is must watch TV. Their position players are excellent and they compete. Down 7-0 after 1 inning and they battled and battled to the end. Was disappointed in 7th inning at bats. Their ace you know is just going to throw strikes. That's exactly what she did. Batters got behind w 2 strikes and were not productive. I would have told them to swing away w 1st good pitch (like batter did w 2 outs).
Looking forward to game later today. They'll be fine. SEC softball is loaded w about 10 very, very good teams. LSU is 1 of them. They have played a very tough schedule and are battle tested. May not get a top 8 seeding but rest assured they will make for excellent viewing. Proud of the effort! Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:25 am to Tiger1988
it will be back to reality when the hitting coach bolts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:29 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:The non-confernce schedule this season included ONE top 15 team (No. 4 UCLA) and ONE other top 20 team - No. 17 Virginia Tech.
She piles up the victories against cupcakes
Incorrect. LSU always has a top 10 non-conference strength of schedule.
Hardly a challenging non-conference schedule.
ETA: Unless, of course, you consider Charlotte, Central Arkansas, Southeastern Louisiana, UT Arlington, Southern Miss, Nichols, Weber State, ULM, South Alabama, Minnesota, McNeese, or La Tech (which made a total of 18 games - or nearly half their total wins this season) challenging.
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:49 am to Asleepinthecove
our pitching coach needs a pitching coach
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:53 am to ShockG082
Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:55 am to Asleepinthecove
quote:
I mean, they pinch run for Bergeron frequently.
Why would they forget to tell the umpire she is re entering the game?
This is why:
Forget - definition
To cease or fail to remember; be unable to recall: to forget someone's name. to omit or neglect unintentionally: I forgot to shut the window before leaving.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 12:06 pm to DrD
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If a player "re-enters" the game on defense and no one says anything at that time then by pure simple logic she should be able to bat her next time up in the order.
You have to inform the ump that the player has re-entered. The ump is not monitoring batting order and positions throughout the game unless it is called into question, which it was. He had no record of Maci coming back into the game bc it was not never told to him.
quote:The player that came in as a sub was scheduled to bat.
Who else is going to bat?
quote:
Arkansas coaches are a bunch of cry babies. Their head coach looks like a little bitch. Waiting until the exact moment Bergeron takes a pitch is good coaching but also asinine IMHO. What if Bergeron would have hit a grand slam? Would it have counted?
They didn't make the fkn mistake. Torina did. They did exactly what they were supposed to do and challenge it. You have to wait until at least 1 pitch for it to be an official AB. If she would have hit a bomb it wouldn't have counted. Runners would reset and an out recorded for illegal batter.
I've seen a batting order sub mistake not be caught/called for a couple of innings until the batter had a productive AB.
My only issue with it all besides the obvious mistake, which was the first of a couple that half inning and really killed a great opportunity to make some noise, why didn't Torina question that the assistant coach shouldn't be out there with the plate ump. The head coach is the only coach that is supposed to have conversations or question calls. I believe this to be another oversight that Torina should've questioned.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 12:18 pm to Le Tenia
GEAUX FIGHTIN' TORINAS! 
Posted on 5/2/25 at 12:31 pm to LsuSaintsCub57
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Lol you can't judge her by one year. 30th out of all d1 coaches isn't bad. As a whole she one of the best pitching coaches in college softball.
You stated great meaning Top 5. She hasn’t had an AA in 10 years.
Yet the talent is ridiculous she has had here.
They hover around 6th in the conference.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 12:34 pm to Asleepinthecove
Been going on for years but I get bashed every time I say something. She will not win a WCWS at LSU!! she is a good coach but not a championship coach.!!’
Posted on 5/2/25 at 12:35 pm to hg
Cause they don’t play anyone
Posted on 5/2/25 at 1:13 pm to Bandits58
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Been going on for years but I get bashed every time I say something. She will not win a WCWS at LSU!! she is a good coach but not a championship coach.!
If she couldn’t win a championship with Hoover, Walljasper, Bell, Simmons, Jaquish, etc. then she never will.
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