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re: Best way to select permanent opponents for SEC Football

Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1681 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:23 pm to
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I’ll say it yet again. It 1000% won’t be Bama


You're probably right but I just want to say it's not fair that we are about to lose them as a yearly opponent just as they have turned mortal and are on the brink of collapse.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20241 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:23 pm to
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I’ll say it yet again. It 1000% won’t be Bama. You’re high or ignorant if you think they’ll get Auburn, Tennessee and us


100% agree.

Bama will not allow that and Tenner and Auburn are true historical rivalries for them.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20241 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:24 pm to
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You're probably right but I just want to say it's not fair that we are about to lose them as a yearly opponent just as they have turned mortal and are on the brink of collapse.


Bama isn't going to fall too far and they'll always be spending money on tops coaches and players. They won't have a Tennessee like run of crap for 2 decades.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37902 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Who is considered South Carolina's rivals in conference?


For scheduling purposes in other sports besides football it has typically been Kentucky. For a little while, I think both men's and women's basketball had the "permanent opponent" that they played twice every year and it set up like this:

LSU-A&M
Tenn-Vandy
S.C.--Kentucky
Alabama--Auburn
Florida-Georgia
Arkansas--Missouri
Ole Miss--Miss. St.

As far as "on the field" rival...I am not sure SC has one really.
Posted by runridley
Member since Sep 2009
143 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:28 pm to
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss State
Arkansas: Texas A&M, Texas, Missouri
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Vanderbilt
Florida: Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky: South Carolina, Miss State, Missouri
LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Oklahoma
Miss State: Ole Miss, Kentucky, Alabama
Missouri: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky
Ole Miss: LSU, Miss State, Vanderbilt
Oklahoma: Texas, Missouri, LSU
South Carolina: Georgia, Kentucky, Florida
Tennessee: Alabama, Vanderbilt, Florida
Texas: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Texas A&M: Texas, Arkansas, LSU
Vanderbilt: Tennessee, Ole Miss, Auburn
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12256 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:31 pm to
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I think that LSU is going to get Oklahoma simply because the SEC and ESPN want both OU and LSU to play the Sat after Thanksgiving every year. My guess is Ole Miss, A&M, and OU.


Based on what? Because they played once in that slot?

OU should play Missouri and LSU play Arkansas the Saturday/Friday after Thanksgiving.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6483 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:40 pm to
Since everyone has a set game against their in-state rival on Thanksgiving weekend, I would expect Oklahoma to be one of our permanent opponents as we could only play them, Missouri, or Arkansas... since Arkansas and Missouri have been playing each other that weekend for several years, don't be surprised if OU is one of our 3 permanent opponents.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:43 pm to
Missouri, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Texas have no history with the SEC.
They naturally have their own familiarity, but grouping them up would not be helpful in making them an embedded part of the conference instead of just bolt on expansion schools. So, I doubt they go with the pod approach.

Arkansas and South Carolina to some degree have embedded themselves into the traditional SEC culture having been in the league for quite some time.

There are natural in-state rivals.
Texas/A&M
Ole Miss/Miss State
Bama/Auburn

Then there are long-standing rivalries.
Texas/ OU
Tenn/Bama
Georgia/Florida

Then, you have long-term SEC East/West matchups.
Tenn/UGA
LSU against ole miss, arkansas, auburn, alabama
Everybody wanting to play Kentucky and Vandy.

And the relative perception of having hard versus easy opponents based on current and historical strength.
For instance, you wouldn't want to be in a pod with Bama/LSU/UGA/Florida as your permanent opponents over the last 20 years.
To some degree the same could be said for Texas and OU over the last 20 or so years.
Tennessee was championship good in the 90's.

But florida has down years. Tennesee as well. Arkansas has had good years and bad years. Vandy with the right coach and quarterback have won games they traditionally lose. South Carolina can be tough.

It's definitely not going to be an easy task.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:43 pm to
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss St, LSU
Arkansas: Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, LSU
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Miss St
Florida: Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, Tenn, South Carolina
Kentucky: Vandy, Tenn, Mizzou, S.Carolina.
LSU: Ole Miss, Arkansas, Bama, A&M
Miss State: Ole Miss, Bama, Auburn, Vandy
Missouri: Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Kentucky
Ole Miss: LSU, Miss State, Vandy, Texas
Oklahoma: Texas, Missouri, A&M, Arkansas
South Carolina: Georgia, Kentucky, Florida, Vandy
Tennessee: Alabama, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Kentucky
Texas: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss
Texas A&M: Texas, Arkansas, LSU, Oklahoma
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, Miss St, Ole Miss, S. Carolina

It became quite difficult at the end to find decent balance and proximity fits.
Tennessee has too many natural opponents.
Oklahoma has too few.
How do you handle Vandy and Miss St (centrally located and relatively weak historically)?
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 2:55 pm
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15737 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:43 pm to
I do not understand your premise.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
13468 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

’ll say it yet again. It 1000% won’t be Bama.


The SEC wants Bama and LSU to continue playing every year because for the past 15 years its been the biggest $ drawing game the conference has.

Also Tennessee hasn't been very good until the past three seasons. They were down for a while. Auburn is currently down so its not like they are getting the 3 best teams to play. I would say our draw would be harder than theirs.

And again Ole Miss and the Aggies are damn near locks at this point. The last one is between Florida, OU, and Bama. Arkansas is not in the running.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10500 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:00 pm to
I think it will be Ole Miss, Oklahoma, and Texas Gay & M.

They won’t give us Bama because it would make Bama’s schedule too hard.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20386 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Rank the three or four teams you most routinely route against when they don’t play your team.

You’re darn toutin’.
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
2168 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:23 pm to
Ole Piss
MS St
Ark
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2988 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Rank the three or four teams you most routinely route against when they don’t play your team.

I always attempt to take the route of least resistance so I'm more of a go with the flow rather than going against


"And it's route, route route for the home team..."

Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44901 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:07 pm to
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It will not be Bama. Ole Miss and aTm is almost guaranteed. The third will be Arkansas or Florida

The SEC will not make them and Bama would probably refuse to play AU, Tennessee and LSU annually.


So Florida would play Georgia, Tennessee, and LSU?
That's tougher than Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU.
Posted by Carter
Member since Nov 2003
3634 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:13 pm to
I was thinking pull teams from a hat
Posted by coachLSU
Member since Jan 2005
22630 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:15 pm to
Auburn / Alabama
LSU / aTm
Texas / Oklahoma
Kentucky / USCe
Georgia / Florida
Tennessee / Vandy
Arkansas / Mizzou
Ole Miss / Miss State
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:17 pm to
Would rather have Arkansas or Florida than A&M. Just don’t care about Texas A&M.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14901 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 4:37 pm to
Best way is to not have them.
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