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re: Be honest with yourself: Can you see Coach O leading LSU to the playoffs?

Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:45 pm to
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I cannot, and thats tough.


I cant even see a west title, much less a NC.

63-10 should be terribly depressing to any LSU fan. Add in Florida and A&M defeats and we are headed in the wrong direction to be talking NC.
Posted by GeauxEaux
Member since Dec 2016
719 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:45 pm to
You’re inability or another’s ability is completely irrelevant to the issue.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:46 pm to
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How many folks believed that Saban had "it" after his second year?




If one couldn't listen to Saban and realize what he was capable of building, they might have had shite in their ears.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58602 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Do u realize how close he came this year? He may fail miserably going forward but give the man a break and let him give you some facts to work with....


He's given us facts. I don't understand how the O supporters give him an entirely blank slate with each year. It's odd.
Posted by saintsfan6
TX
Member since Aug 2016
550 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:47 pm to
No I do not, but I would love to see him succeed. I like him, but I havent seen enough to have playoff confidence in him. And the "11-1 loss to BAMA = playoffs" crowd is delusional. I think if the right things happened it could be true. Assuming we dont play into SECCG due to a BAMA loss, it would be a stretch for us to get in. We arent BAMA and the playoff committee will not view us as equal.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Do u realize how close he came this year?


How close?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:47 pm to
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CBandits82


Sounds like you can't see period.
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
3624 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:47 pm to
so did your magic 8 ball tell you that! lol
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50265 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:48 pm to
What I'm referring to are the convenient missed calls that allowed aTm back in the game and then the ones in OT to win. Those calls wouldn't happen to Bama, Auburn, or UF. NEVER. In the past, those calls wouldn't happen to LSU either when we played the likes of Ole Miss, Arky, aTm, etc.

Immediately after the game, ESPN was mocking LSU for the Gatorade bath, compared that to the Bluegrass Miracle years back, then they started with the "Up and coming Jimbo vs Saban" narrative. Jimbo's team gave Bama a fight. O's team put up another goose egg at home....

LSU dropped another notch and it was plain as day to see.

Pay attention to the product/narrative the entertainment industry that owns the sport is pushing. Also, did you know aTm is the most valuable football program according to Forbes?

More valuable program, larger media market, known commodity as Head Coach....

LSU just dropped.

Downvote away, Rant! Reality sucks!
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39979 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:48 pm to
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How many folks believed that Saban had "it" after his second year?


You mean after he won the SEC and blew out Illinois in the Sugar Bowl?
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Heck there were many who didn't believe Saban had "it" when he left LSU. Their proof was the Bowl loss to Iowa.


These people who you just made up sound like idiots.
Posted by LSUFootballFANATIC
Way Up North
Member since Feb 2008
1026 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:49 pm to
No
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67899 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:49 pm to
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You've got an inflated idea of how much talent is on this team and ready to play.



Who is more talented than LSU other than Georgia and Alabama?

The recruiting rankings and offer lists say otherwise. LSU recruits great players every year

This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:50 pm to
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He's given us facts. I don't understand how the O supporters give him an entirely blank slate with each year. It's odd.



But it’s not a blank slate. It’s his 2nd year as head coach. We have a 2 year slate. We are collecting data.

Better than O haters who toss any slate out the window.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27802 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:50 pm to
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How many folks believed that Saban had "it" after his second year?

Do you mean the same second year in which he took us to our first ever SECCG, upset #2 Tennessee, and gave us our first conference title and Sugar Bowl appearance since the 80’s?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73475 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:50 pm to
He got pretty close this year despite a tough schedule and a struggling offense, so yes.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54078 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:50 pm to
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I think your perspective is the perspective of a large percentage of our fanbase, and it’s why you cannot be objective when judging him.

You just can’t “see” him doing well, so there’s this confirmation bias about what is actually happening. He’s a shrimp boat captain, so there’s no way he can be a good coach. I had the same impression of Dabo, who I thought was an Alabama yokel who would never make it. Boy, was I wrong.

To many fans, this season was a failure. To others, he did a good job with what he had and they don’t knock him for the A&M game.

Somehow we as fans have to find a way to view things objectively, because a revolving door of coaches, OC’s, etc is no path to success. If it were Tennessee would be a playoff contender every year.




Not at all, but we are 2.5 years into his tenure and the offense is archaic.

Nothing is schemed to a strength, we are almost 3 years in here and I have not seen any kind of strategic offensive attack that he said would happen.

How can I trust he hits the next OC hire out of the park, if he even has the balls to hire another OC in the first place.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84066 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:50 pm to
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I don't understand how the O supporters give him an entirely blank slate with each year. It's odd.


It really is baffling. All last year we got to hear about "well Saban lost to UAB and ULM and he turned out fine after those first years." Fast forward to the end of this year where we are no closer to our supposed championship aspirations, and they're still making Saban comparisons Sabans' year 2 at LSU and Bama both blow what 0 did this year out of the water. But as usual, we still need to wait and see.. and hope and pray.

We comin'... maybe.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8912 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:51 pm to
If he gets the right guy at OC, Yes he can lead us to the playoffs.

If he is ok with the status quo on offense, he will be looking for a job in 3 years.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25426 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:51 pm to
Fuuuuuuuuuuck no
Posted by Tigers4life
The great US of A
Member since May 2004
1865 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:52 pm to
I'm not an O supporter nor a O condemner until I see him fail. No need to speculate after a surprisingly good year. It's all bs...
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