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re: Be honest with yourself: Can you see Coach O leading LSU to the playoffs?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:38 pm to bencoleman
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:38 pm to bencoleman
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Anyone that thinks differently is allowing petty bias to cloud their judgment.
He's lost at least one game he shouldn't every year he's been in charge. Why would any rational person expect that to change?
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:38 pm to pellietigersaint
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Yes. He almost did it this year with the team that wasn't as talented as some of the other contenders. if we improve our roster and he improves his coaching and the coaches around him then yes
These are MASSIVE "ifs" that you pretty effortlessly gloss over.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:38 pm to CBandits82
No way in hell.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:38 pm to nicholastiger
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I've seen improvement from the Miles era.
Is it enough to compete for a national title, no!
They are still way behind Bama in talent at critical positions.
This is being addressed in the trenches, but save this year at RB, don't act like LSU hasn't stacked up with Bama well at the WR and Back positions.
O's biggest problem, as was Miles's, is his offense. There is simply no bigger issue hindering us from competing.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:39 pm to Tigerbait357
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A team with top 10 talent and one of the best D coordinators in the business was never going to win as little as 6-7 games
This is such bs
Agreed. I was one of the most vocally negative about O before the season, and I predicted 8-4, which I viewed as being a pretty bad season. O has bested that prediction by one game, and some are wanting to crown him for a significant performance.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:40 pm to LNCHBOX
Well maybe he will learn not to trust his D to get a late game stop no matter how good the d coordinator is. That would have saved us Ls v ND and Aggie. If he learns this and uses it going forward that’s an extra win each year that he has gained for us.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:40 pm to CBandits82
It depends. If he's willing to coach without fear. That means:
-Don't hire comfortable coaches (friends, safe hires)
-Be willing to take risks on the field; if he wants a safe gameplan his coaches will gameplan "not to lose"
-Stand up to Alleva and F King; we need to match Bama and other SEC teams on student stipends, fill our support staff with the top talent available and if he wants top OCs that may be a little questionable he has to lobby for them
He has to treat this next season like there is no tomorrow because there isn't. If he plays it safe he's gone because the fans and boosters are going to turn on him and the program. He needs to let Alleva know that if he goes down he's taking him and F King with him.
-Don't hire comfortable coaches (friends, safe hires)
-Be willing to take risks on the field; if he wants a safe gameplan his coaches will gameplan "not to lose"
-Stand up to Alleva and F King; we need to match Bama and other SEC teams on student stipends, fill our support staff with the top talent available and if he wants top OCs that may be a little questionable he has to lobby for them
He has to treat this next season like there is no tomorrow because there isn't. If he plays it safe he's gone because the fans and boosters are going to turn on him and the program. He needs to let Alleva know that if he goes down he's taking him and F King with him.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:41 pm to redneck
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Les will win the Big 12 before CEO wins the SEC and thats a fact jack
How much would you like to bet? I'm serious.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:41 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Well maybe he will learn not to trust his D to get a late game stop no matter how good the d coordinator is. That would have saved us Ls v ND and Aggie. If he learns this and uses it going forward that’s an extra win each year that he has gained for us.
The offense did jack shite in the ND game, and the defense scored points last Saturday. Stick to trolling the MSB.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:42 pm to TheDeathValley
How many folks believed that Saban had "it" after his second year?
Heck there were many who didn't believe Saban had "it" when he left LSU. Their proof was the Bowl loss to Iowa.
Heck there were many who didn't believe Saban had "it" when he left LSU. Their proof was the Bowl loss to Iowa.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:42 pm to TheDeathValley
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No, he doesn't have "IT".
This makes you sound like a dumbass.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Oh Jesus. There is a significant amount of history on which to base O's abilities, so he is a different animal from Dabo entirely. Now, that's no guarantee obviously, but you can't completely discount it.
Dabo had no experience beyond a position coach. You would prefer zero experience?
I mean, judge Coach O on a decade ago at a perennial bottom feeder (where he significantly improved the roster), or judge him on his most recent work.
But don’t judge him based on how you “see” him.
He’s in his 2nd year. I say we let it play out.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:43 pm to Gus007
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How many folks believed that Saban had "it" after his second year?
Heck there were many who didn't believe Saban had "it" when he left LSU. Their proof was the Bowl loss to Iowa.
The 0 comparisons to Saban are never not hilarious. Please keep them coming.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:43 pm to LNCHBOX
they didn’t get the stop when they needed to. Allowed opposition to drive the length of the field. Inexcusable. Hopefully this encourages Ed to be more aggressive on Offense in these situations. But you can’t blame him for relying on the highest paid coordinator In the land to get a stop can you.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:44 pm to CBandits82
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Can you see Coach O leading LSU to the playoffs?
Do u realize how close he came this year? He may fail miserably going forward but give the man a break and let him give you some facts to work with....
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:44 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:-2/10 Back to the MSB with you
they didn’t get the stop when they needed to. Allowed opposition to drive the length of the field. Inexcusable. Hopefully this encourages Ed to be more aggressive on Offense in these situations. But you can’t blame him for relying on the highest paid coordinator In the land to get a stop can you.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:44 pm to Mohican
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Dabo had no experience beyond a position coach. You would prefer zero experience?
Prefer? I said thy are different situations.
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I mean, judge Coach O on a decade ago at a perennial bottom feeder (where he significantly improved the roster), or judge him on his most recent work.
His most recent work gets factored into the equation obviously. Based on his overall resume, I cannot see him leading LSU to the playoffs. Not sure why that's so controversial.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:45 pm to AlxTgr
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But can you honestly see O adapting and innovating enough to get LSU to the playoffs?
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Yes, of course.
I dont see how you can make this statement.
He promised change and threw lipstick on what Miles had offensively.
I cannot see him hiring a brilliant offensive mind and changing this offensive scheme to win a playoff game.
I cant see him hiring an OC and letting him schematically draw up a plan that will attack an opposing teams defensive weakness.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:45 pm to Tigerbait357
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team with top 10 talent and one of the best D coordinators in the business was never going to win as little as 6-7 games
You've got an inflated idea of how much talent is on this team and ready to play.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:45 pm to CBandits82
I can totally see this team being capable of 11-1 next season and in the playoffs.
I won’t expect it but it wouldn’t surprise me. This team probably should’ve finished 11-1 now that we can look back.
I won’t expect it but it wouldn’t surprise me. This team probably should’ve finished 11-1 now that we can look back.
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