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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:16 pm to
That failed bunt attempt is on Gio. It didn't look like he was even trying to me. Bunting isn't as easy as it looks/seems but he was totally uninterested in executing that bunt.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33454 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:20 pm to
Every time I have watched live batting practice at the stadium, whether it be college or pro, the guys usually will do 1 or 2 half-assed bunt attempts, then start swinging for the fences. 99% of them don't give a shite about bunting.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35947 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:21 pm to
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Bunting isn’t easy. Major league players frick up bunt attempts all the time. Sometimes a player is unable to execute. Routine grounders go through legs. Routine fly balls pop out of gloves. A throw to first base sails. A pitch runs too far inside and clips the batter and yes a bunt gets botched.

In every one of those situations it’s not that the player doesn’t know how to do it and it’s not that he doesn’t want to do it. Players in every sport at every level just frick it up sometimes. You’re looking way too deep into this.


So when a guy fails to bunt three times and on the third time doesn’t get close you equate that with one grounder going through a guy’s legs?

If you watched Gio bunt you could see he wasn’t fundamentally sound. I don’t accept the fact that it’s tough to bunt, and people just screw up because it’s so hard.
It’s not that hard to bunt. Now it can be hard to bunt in certain spots and put the ball where it needs to go, but watching Gio he had no clue.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8959 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Does anyone know how much time CPM spends at practice, working on bunts, before OP makes another ignorant post?



He is too worried about polishing the bus for his next ride.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56407 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

The simple fact that the players couldn't execute a simple sac bunt shows yet again that the team is poorly coached/prepared. Baseball 101 and it continues to show up.


This is probably the weakest argument.

Is this really how you want to make your case?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278257 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Does anyone know how much time CPM spends at practice, working on bunts, before OP makes another ignorant post?



Outside of BP probably not much

It should be low priority due to allotted time with players.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28602 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:38 pm to
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but watching Gio he had no clue.


And I’ve seen Gio put one straight down the line for a hit before. I’ve seen Marceaux walk a guy on 4 straight pitches.

I was listening on the radio so I didn’t see it but I’ve seen Gio bunt before. He knows what he’s doing and I’ve never seen him act like he doesn’t care.

I find it easier to believe that he was just unable to execute. It happens.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

The simple fact that the players couldn't execute a simple sac bunt shows yet again that the team is poorly coached/prepared. Baseball 101 and it continues to show up.


I'm sure it was easy to lay down a sac bunt in HS against the guy throwing 78 with no movement. Different against 90s with movement.
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
602 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:53 pm to
Well, no shite. These coaches have forgotten how baseball is played. Bunting, base running, stealing bases, hit and run, are lost arts, and you can't expect players to perform, if they don't practice. These coaches have lost it, and it's gone forever.

Pitching is another issue. If a pitcher cannot consistantly throw curves and sliders for strikes, you cannot win in this league, or any league. I'll take an 85mph fast ball and a curve and slider for strikes and I'll whip your butt 75 percent of the time. Dunn has no clue what I'm talking about.
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1101 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:07 pm to
Bottomline- If he cant bunt, he should not have been ask to! That’s on the Coach !
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35947 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:03 pm to
quote:


And I’ve seen Gio put one straight down the line for a hit before. I’ve seen Marceaux walk a guy on 4 straight pitches.

I was listening on the radio so I didn’t see it but I’ve seen Gio bunt before. He knows what he’s doing and I’ve never seen him act like he doesn’t care.

I find it easier to believe that he was just unable to execute. It happens.


Just admit you didn’t see him fail to get down a sacrifice bunt and let it go because his form was terrible. He was so bad it looked like he wasn’t trying especially on strike three.
And you do know bunting for a hit is different than a sac bunt.right?
Posted by TravisBRTiger
Member since Nov 2020
2164 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:18 pm to
You know who does give a shite? Texas. They win with small ball and timely hitting, took 2/3 on the road from TCU this weekend.

To think, we could've let them hire Pawl away and hired David Pierce, we'd be #4 or #5 in America right now.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2085 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:21 pm to
And in 2019 Texas was 27-27. So there goes your dumb theory
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10431 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Have you ever considered the fact that a guy who's 20-21 years old and has been playing Baseball his entire life


Have you ever considered the fact you arent going to sac bunt a guy in high school that is batting over .400. Many of these guys hit that of better and can probably count on one hand the number of times they have laid down a bunt.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
4203 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:01 pm to
the only problem with this take is that the best teams all know how to bunt, run bases....you know what they call fundamental baseball. PM's teams have never been fundamentally sound. When he has won it has been because his players overcame his coaching ineptness.
Posted by OGhunter777
Member since Mar 2012
781 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:14 pm to
Sorry - player at this level should be able to get a bunt down. Clearly gio wasn’t interested in bunting. Very poor attempt. He had a terrible weekend. Maybe he just wasn’t there mentally.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10890 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:16 pm to
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Hot, fresh take. Thanks for your contribution Sir!
Hot and Fresh enough to pull you in and get you to respond there Pumper Boy.

All you nuts and yalls over threads that you don't like.

Don't like the thread? Ignore it and move on.
Posted by PSPN_creid
Member since Jul 2019
93 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:17 pm to
A very healthy amount of time is dedicated to bunting. It’s on the player if it isn’t bunted.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3582 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:25 pm to
Lay off the sauce. The man has coached almost 1500 wins. He hasn’t forgotten how baseball is played. They often make the wrong decision strategically. Hindsight is 20/20, but he’s payed to win. And when his decisions lead to losses, it’s time to move on. But don’t act like he doesn’t know baseball, that’s just silly.
Posted by grommonkey
Member since May 2021
23 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:02 pm to
Smoke would be a perfect fit with this crew of idiots
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