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re: Austin Thomas coming back
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:12 pm to GFunk
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:12 pm to GFunk
Yeah the Thomas hype is another example of this board falling in love via puff articles written by LSU media. He’s not the rising star future GM this board had him pegged for years ago, his job hopping since tells you that.
He’s a good admin for a regime that really seems to need one though
He’s a good admin for a regime that really seems to need one though
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:13 pm to ATLTiger
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I seem to remember there being some melting on here when he left.
I seem to recall one specific bi-polar poster who posts under 2 separate names saying he was happy to see Thomas geaux.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:16 pm to Gravitiger
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I'm not saying he isn't valuable
Lol, you literally just said hes a secretary.
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Everything that has been stated so far is something a competent student worker could do
Competent student workers don't get the jobs he has had. That is the point.
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blindly defending him
Its not blindly defending him. He is sought after by coaches and ADs of major programs. That makes him clearly valuable. You are as valuable as your market dictates.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:21 pm to adamb2151
quote:No, I asked that in response to someone who described him being good at secretarial work.
Lol, you literally just said hes a secretary.
quote:He got a good job, so he must deserve it?
Competent student workers don't get the jobs he has had. That is the point.
quote:See response above.
Its not blindly defending him. He is sought after by coaches and ADs of major programs. That makes him clearly valuable. You are as valuable as your market dictates.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:25 pm to Gravitiger
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He got a good job, so he must deserve it?
He has had multiple good jobs at several places as well as NFL GM interest and LSU is bringing him back for the third time bc he is clearly terrible at his job. But youre right. He must suck bc we don't know exactly what he does all day.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:30 pm to adamb2151
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as well as NFL GM interest
Yea I don’t know about that chief
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:30 pm to BilJ
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Yeah the Thomas hype is another example of this board falling in love via puff articles written by LSU media. He’s not the rising star future GM this board had him pegged for years ago, his job hopping since tells you that.
He’s a good admin for a regime that really seems to need one though
Austin realized his downfall and that was leaving LSU and his pairing with the Tugboat Captain. He realizes that he's no good without his binder in crime. Together, they can additional chapters and become legendary.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:36 pm to adamb2151
quote:I didn't say he sucks. At all. I just asked what he excels at beyond the basic secretarial work someone stated above.
He has had multiple good jobs at several places as well as NFL GM interest and LSU is bringing him back for the third time bc he is clearly terrible at his job. But youre right. He must suck bc we don't know exactly what he does all day.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:40 pm to DBG
Adam seems to be quite the Thomas fan boy
Adam other than footballscoop (that gets its LSU info from DP by the way) show me where he got a sniff as an NFL GM
Adam other than footballscoop (that gets its LSU info from DP by the way) show me where he got a sniff as an NFL GM
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:42 pm to adamb2151
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adamb2151
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Its not blindly defending him. He is sought after by coaches and ADs of major programs. That makes him clearly valuable. You are as valuable as your market dictates.
2013-2020 - 7 years
AT's jobs since 2013 - 7 (UTK, LSU, USC, LSU, TAMU, BU, LSU)
Adam...if you don't see quite clearly that either Austin places zero value in helping to build a program over the longer term or that he tends to wear out his welcome anywhere that Ed Orgeron doesn't coach at within two years tops over the last decade, then you should probably stop using phrases like, "You are as valuable as your market dictates."
Most any market where human competency is capital is some place you want to show consistency in production and longer-term results. Don't believe me? How about Havard Business Review? A few links...
HBR: Professional Transitions: Mangaing Yourself: job-Hopping to the Top & Other Career Fallacies
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Fallacy 1: Job hoppers prosper. An analysis of the career histories of 1,001 CEOs and 14,000 non-CEOs in top corporations shows that the more years executives stay with the company, the faster they make it to the top. Lesson: Build a résumé that demonstrates a balance between external and internal moves.
Let's continue...
HBR: Career Planning: 10 Reasons to Stay in a Job for 10 Years
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3. Stability: If executives are perpetually moving, it’s difficult to make long-term plans. A little stability in career and workplace can help them cope more effectively with the stresses that are sure to occur within the rest of their lives.
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7. Dependability: An executive who is willing to stay the course for 10 or more years (which is typical in Japan and other European countries) demonstrates a level of dependability that companies will generally reward and respect.
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9. Perseverance: It’s easy to quit over perceived unfairness or serious challenges. But it shows much stronger character to persevere, to find and enact solutions to problems, repair damage, and to take an active role in turning a situation around. (However, anyone who works in a genuinely toxic corporate environment should absolutely take their leave, as quickly as possible, and move on.)
10. A Say in the Company’s Future: An executive can have a positive influence on their company’s direction if they’re willing to stick with the organization through good times and bad.
I can keep going if you like...
HBR: Managing Yourself: Five Ways to Bungle a Job Change
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Mistake 4: Overestimating yourself.
According to one search consultant, people “believe they contribute more than they actually do and undervalue the strengths of their organization in helping them achieve their objectives.” Job seekers, we found, tend to have an unrealistic view of their skills, their prospects, and occasionally their culpability. They often can’t identify the sources of success and failure at their existing jobs. Candidates are “looking at the current company as being the problem and not acknowledging that they themselves may be a part of the problem,” one consultant explained. Another put it this way: “People fail to be realistic sometimes [and] to be self-critical, and [they therefore think] that external circumstances and environments have more to do with their frustrations or failures than their own issues.”
Their excessively optimistic view of themselves leads them to underestimate how long a job search will take and what the switching costs will be. Such job seekers also overestimate the salary they can command and their capacity to deal with the challenges of the new position—particularly the difficulty of creating change in a large organization.
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Mistake 5: Thinking short term.
Having a short-term perspective can feed into each of the other four mistakes. For instance, if you overestimate yourself, you may believe you deserve rewards now, not in five years. Leaving a firm because of money and going “from” rather than “to” are both overly influenced by immediate information and considerations. “How much money can I make right now?” the executive wonders. “How can I escape an unpleasant work environment?” Still, many of the search consultants rated short-term thinking as a serious career misstep in its own right—citing it separately, not just including it as a footnote to the other mistakes.
But I'm sure you're right. I'm sure no one values the determination, grit and perseverance necessary to dig in, make a commitment and grow an organization while growing themselves.
This is a man who from a business and investment perspective has only one job in the past decade that could be described as having held said job in, "the medium term." That one was barely qualifying if you're using corporate and investment terminology as you did to define his value in the, "market".
Every other position he's had as a professional has been, "short term." There is no way around that fact.
But again, I'm sure all these high-powered AD's just see a hot name and jump for it. I'm sure seeing someone constantly job hopping-to the point of having 7 jobs in 7 years-and leaving LSU once before only to return a few months later under strange circumstances while spending another three years away where they had two jobs before coming back yet again is actually a huge positive on a resume.
I'm certain it's helped Thomas field offers from all sorts of lucrative places and assisted in his ascension. I'm certain he's only a year or so away from being given the reigns to an NFL Franchise as a Personnel Executive.
I'm sure it has. Your buzzword corporate catchphrases prove it.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:42 pm to 610man
Why are they taking this prick back? Didn’t he throw a fit at some point?
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:48 pm to BilJ
I don’t think he was that valuable, but Nader’s spot needs to be filled so perhaps he can be more valuable there.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:52 pm to BilJ
I didn’t think my (true) comment would be taken to fondly.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:55 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Right that’s what I pretty much said
Posted on 12/30/20 at 12:59 pm to 610man
Can we at least get a pic of Sam Nader's grand daughter to remember him by?
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:00 pm to adamb2151
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as well as NFL GM interest
Nobody wanted him to a GM in the NFL. O just said he thought one day he would be a NFL GM.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:03 pm to saintsfan22
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saintsfan22
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Nobody wanted him to a GM in the NFL. O just said he thought one day he would be a NFL GM.
Don't get in the way of their narrative.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:08 pm to GFunk
I mean it's a fine hire but it's pretty clear by now it's not a monumental addition that it used to get talked about.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:15 pm to 610man
Sam Nader may be one of the most genuinely amazing people on the planet! TYFYS coach Nader!
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:19 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
The Rant's worship and "frick my wife please" over this 12 year old is incredible.
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