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ATVS: Joe Burrow's Two Heisman Seasons
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:57 am
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I know this goes above what the admins would prefer you quote from the article, but I couldn't figure out how to succinctly convey the idea of it without all of this. Apologies.
I know this goes above what the admins would prefer you quote from the article, but I couldn't figure out how to succinctly convey the idea of it without all of this. Apologies.
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Auburn defensive coordinator Kevin Steele didn’t think he would ever have to face this kind of LSU offense. When Steele was the defensive coordinator for LSU in 2015, the offense he saw in practice every day finished the season averaging an abysmal 53% completion rate with 180 yards per game on 23 pass attempts. This was the norm for the Tiger football team for decades.
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Besides throwing the ball a lot, Joe Burrow was throwing it with striking efficiency. In the 7 games leading up to the Auburn game, the senior quarterback’s line was 173/218, 2484, 29-3. That’s 354 yards per game and 11.3 yards per attempt with a 79.3% completion rate to go along with 29 touchdowns to only 3 interceptions. Wild numbers for any quarterback never mind an LSU one. Defenses spent their Saturdays getting torched as they trotted out the defenses they came up with during the spring and summer. Texas got bullied to the tune of 471 yards as Todd Orlando played Cover 1 against Burrow and LSU’s star studded cast of receivers. Florida saw Burrow go 21 for 24 with 293 yards and 3 touchdowns in one of the most dominant SEC performances of all time as Todd Grantham played his over defense.
Steele knew playing Burrow straight up was a fools errand so in the week leading up to the game he drew up a nice new defense that saw him play with 3 d-linemen in a tite front with 7 defensive backs to stifle LSU’s passing attack. They played off, they played cover 2 man, they tried everything to match speed with speed and often double cover the numerous threats LSU possessed. It was a success insofar as giving up 321 passing yards and 187 rushing yards could be called a success. Still, it was Burrow’s worst game of the season in terms of QB rating.
And so we thought maybe that the ex LSU defensive coordinator had found the secret defense that would unravel the LSU Tiger offense. Rush 3 players, find a way to get pressure and clog up the passing lanes. Auburn didn’t rush 3 that often but it set the blueprint for things to come.
For the first 7 games of the season, Burrow displayed incredible timing and accuracy to find Justin Jefferson on deep over routes, Ja’Marr Chase on glance posts, Terrace Marshall on digs to name a few of his favorite routes. When Joe was able to throw in rhythm, he was deadly.
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Kevin Steele showed his defensive coordinator colleagues around the SEC, not letting Burrow throw in rhythm seemed like the only way to stop him. In essence, treat LSU like they were an Air Raid
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You don’t start for a Mike Leach offense and get played straight up on defense. Those guys have to wait around and buy time to make a play because the routes they want to throw early in the play aren’t going to be there often. In 2018, Gardner Minshew’s average time to throw was 2.80 seconds, well beyond the 2.50 seconds PFF threshold. This past season Anthony Gordon had a similar 2.78 seconds per throw. This is how defenses try to snuff out Air Raid teams.
Joe Burrow was about to find out the same frustrating truth when your standard down run rate is a lowly 118th in the country. Before the Auburn game, Joe Burrow was averaging an already pretty high 2.78 average seconds to throw. After Kevin Steele found the magic formula: an unprecedented 3.15. That is a wildly inappropriate number for a quarterback.
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All Joe Burrow did was put up 10.4 yards per attempt in the second half of the season. That would put him 2nd in the country (where he ended up finishing when you include his entire season). There was barely a dropoff in efficiency. It’s hard to overstate how hard this change is on a quarterback. All of a sudden, defenses weren’t allowing Joe to do what he wanted to do and he responded by, well, doing whatever the hell he wanted to do.
The LSU pivot was able to play quarterback without rhythm and still put up jaw dropping numbers. He still wants to throw in rhythm. When the opportunities present themselves, he’s still a killer but instead of allowing defenses to force him to throw into tight windows or check the ball down when there is no pressure, he’s waiting around and making huge plays down the field.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:00 am to sicboy
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:02 am to Cow Drogo
But it's been a amazing to see Joe just make plays happen. If you're not going to give me the pocket time, I'll dance around until I find what I want.
Some of the throws he's made on the run this year have been jaw dropping. The 3rd TD to Jefferson in the Peach Bowl was a laser, perfectly placed back shoulder throw
Some of the throws he's made on the run this year have been jaw dropping. The 3rd TD to Jefferson in the Peach Bowl was a laser, perfectly placed back shoulder throw
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:09 am to sicboy
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All of a sudden, defenses weren’t allowing Joe to do what he wanted to do and he responded by, well, doing whatever the hell he wanted to do.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:10 am to sicboy
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All of a sudden, defenses weren’t allowing Joe to do what he wanted to do and he responded by, well, doing whatever the hell he wanted to do.
Quote of the damn year.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:10 am to sicboy
Consider this. He broke the single season TD record in game 7 (28 passing TD's). He currently has 55 TD passes. Thus, if he throws two TD's vs. Clemson he will have in essence broke it twice in the same season
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:10 am to sicboy
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The 3rd TD to Jefferson in the Peach Bowl was a laser, perfectly placed back shoulder throw
I felt dirty watching it with so many people in the room.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:24 am to sicboy
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All of a sudden, defenses weren’t allowing Joe to do what he wanted to do and he responded by, well, doing whatever the hell he wanted to do.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:26 am to sicboy
Thanks for posting. Read the whole article. Worth the time.
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We’ve really seen two Heisman winning campaigns from Joe Burrow. The first, a hyper efficient metronome who shredded whatever you put in front of him. The second, a lawless renegade who ran around and then also shredded whatever you put in front of him. It has been a special year.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:53 am to Cow Drogo
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w Drogo
your loss. great article.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:04 am to CAD703X
good take on things...I'd just name your link ATVS Analysis...
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:07 am to sicboy
Great article.
I suspect this is what Venable will attempt to do with timely blitz schemes to attempt turnovers or kill a 3rd down conversion. And like the Auburn game CEH will play a huge part to counter what Venables throws at the LSU offense.
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he drew up a nice new defense that saw him play with 3 d-linemen in a tite front with 7 defensive backs to stifle LSU’s passing attack.
I suspect this is what Venable will attempt to do with timely blitz schemes to attempt turnovers or kill a 3rd down conversion. And like the Auburn game CEH will play a huge part to counter what Venables throws at the LSU offense.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:15 am to Zephyrius
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he drew up a nice new defense that saw him play with 3 d-linemen in a tite front with 7 defensive backs to stifle LSU’s passing attack.
As a group, Auburn probably had the best Front 3 in the nation and it is the only reason they could have ANY success doing this.
In the end, they still lost and Jeaux still put up more than 300 yards.
No other team -- including Clemson -- has 3 down linemen who can match Auburn.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:18 am to vl100butch
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I'd just name your link ATVS Analysis...
it's in the thread title
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:19 am to Zephyrius
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I suspect this is what Venable will attempt to do with timely blitz schemes to attempt turnovers or kill a 3rd down conversion. And like the Auburn game CEH will play a huge part to counter what Venables throws at the LSU offense.
Yeah, I would be worried about this game if Clyde wasn't playing. Feel pretty good having him healthy.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:24 am to sicboy
re: Auburn game...
All of the sudden, the LSU staff took a big step backward toward pre-Brady playcalling.
"They can't F-n stop it!!!" No one can (except the LSU coaches)
All of the sudden, the LSU staff took a big step backward toward pre-Brady playcalling.
"They can't F-n stop it!!!" No one can (except the LSU coaches)
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:30 am to sicboy
It worked for Auburn because his 3 DL are studs. Clemson doesn’t have that talent this year.
Georgia tried it in the SECCG and got smoked.
Georgia tried it in the SECCG and got smoked.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:58 am to sicboy
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This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:58 am to sicboy
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The 3rd TD to Jefferson in the Peach Bowl was a laser, perfectly placed back shoulder throw
And he made that throw on the run.
I was sitting in the stadium and my brain couldn't make sense of what I just witnessed. That was truly a 'Did he just do that?' moment.
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