re: Assuming Nuss plays in bowl, 2nd most Passing Yards/Season in LSU history.

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2nd only to Joe Burrow and the rant wants him benched.

This f'ing place.....

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Joe Burrow had Jefferson and Chase bothe drafted in 1st rd. Jaden Daniel's had Neibhors and Thomas both drafted in the 1st round.
Nuss doesn't have a receiver that'll be drafted in the first round

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He'll end up with over 500 attempts; his YPA is 7.6 which isn't great. And yes, part of the problem is because there was no help in the run game. But that 2nd most passing yards stat is volume, not efficiency.

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You basically answered why his ypa is so low but want to discount it at the same time. We have to use screens and quick passes because we have not been able to establish a running game all season. As an example, here are our most productive running games this year and what his YPA were in those games:

South Alabama: 237 yards rushing, 10.5 yards per passing attempt
Arkansas: 158 yards rushing, 6.9 yards per passing attempt
Vandy: 139 yards rushing, 9.0 yards per passing attempt

***Against Arkansas, we had several big ;passing plays negated by penalty (Td pass to Taylor, 20 yard pass to Taylor, 14 yard pass to Lacy).

Because of our complete lack of a running game, we are forced to throw the ball 2/3 of the time. I'll give you an example, Patrick Mahomes, the best QB on planet earth, never had a YPA higher than 8.5 at Texas Tech. He also threw 25 INTs over his last 2 seasons with a comp% of ~ 64%. If all you are doing on offense is throwing the ball, you're never going to have great YPA numbers from your QB, you're just not. Defenses can just rush 4 the entire game and drop everyone else in coverage, which is what teams consistently do to us.

Hell, look at even UGA this year. They have the second worst rushing offense in the SEC. Carson Beck only averages 7.9 YPA.

If we were running the ball even at an average clip and Nuss was still struggling in this metric, I might give it more credence.

It’s not really saying much since we just started running a modern offense when burrow came here. Nuss has gotten a ton of shite and rightly so. The guys some serious flaws he needs to fix. The people saying he needed a run game. Well he had one in Florida and was still awful. He def needs a run game. This is also a fanbase who wanted Nuss to start over Daniels. Which was comical. The OU game was a great game for him and he showed a lot of guts and promise. He def has the mentality to be a really good player. He has the talent. That kid really needs to get to work this offseason. The days of forcing it downfield need to be over. Amazing what standing tall in the pocket, taking what the defense gives you, throwing to your hot routes and backs when they blitz can do for you. Nuss 100% deserved a ton of blame this year but he deserves a lot of credit the last couple of weeks.

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Right. The point is Nuss has that many yards because he throws almost every damn down

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He throws every down because we can’t run the ball. If the offense was more balanced the efficiency numbers would even out and he’d have a higher YPA.

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But that 2nd most passing yards stat is volume, not efficiency.

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The hell it isn't.

No Running game and no great receivers. It remarkable what he has accomplished.

What was Burrows accomplishing prior to Chase, Marshall , Jefferson and Moss.
You could tell Burrow was a Hell of a leader but no one was believing when he predicted forty to fifty points a game prior to the "19" season

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Well he had one in Florida and was still awful.

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His biggest issue against Florida was his IOL, in particular his center and his LG, were flat out terrible.

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This. He's got 140 more attempts than Dart who leads the conference in yds. Let that sink in

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Dart has the best receivers in the conference and is a dual threat QB himself. Teams have to play Ole Miss completely differently than us, which leads to a more efficient passing game and offense overall.

Danny Etling averaged 9.0 YPA in 2017, 2nd best in the SEC. You want to argue he's as good as Nuss or was one of the best QBs in the SEC? Or did we maybe have an All-SEC running back that helped him out in the passing game?

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Dart has the best receivers in the conference and is a dual threat QB himself. Teams have to play Ole Miss completely differently than us, which leads to a more efficient passing game and offense overall.

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All i am arguing is he has a shitload of attempts. With that many attempts you are going to have a ton of yards. Calm down sweetie!

In a way it is but with all the talk about running effectiveness we need to count those yards and plays also. So Nuss’ total plays this year are 523, Burrows in 2018 was 507, JD5 in 2022 had 574 and if you add the rushing numbers Nuss still outpaces the other two as well as better ypp, more TDs in fewer games and more total ypg. So if we’re qualifying it as production from the position Nuss edges the other 2 while they have the advantage in turnovers but Nuss passer efficiency rating is right in between the other two, (JD 144.5) (Burrow 133.2) and (Nuss 140.7).


As a side note I really think Rohan should be included in this conversation because of the Bowl stat nonsense which if added would place him in this group as well.

I agree, his numbers are impressive IMO, for a first year starter and not one elite WR to throw to ( not trying to bash any of the WR's of this year but none are even close to the level of Chase, Jefferson, Marshall, Nabers or Thomas ).