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re: Arkansas fan puts way too much effort into analyzing how badly they choked

Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:04 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61621 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:04 am to
It sounds like they are analyzing how bad they choked. But in reality they are lying to themselves about how close they were.

They were close to making it one more day where they would have faced Anderson with very little available. And of course then they needed to beat CC.

They weren’t close.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
998 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:27 am to
"DVH is content to make Omaha and just hopes for the best once there. The moment routinely becomes too big for them and they just pucker. I'm not convinced that's something that can be fixed, especially when it's the coach that's the biggest culprit."

The above is wrong. How about, LSU was the better team overall. 4 out of 5 this year over Arkansas.. LSU won the CWS.
Posted by Circumlocution
two doors down
Member since Sep 2024
156 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:32 am to
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Their desire to get DVH a title

Florida State's Mike Martin went to Omaha 17 times without winning it all. Came close twice, once in '99 until the bottom of the ninth. Sometimes the baseball gods just don't like you.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56163 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 8:52 am to
What gets lost in the missed DP by Aloy.. they weren't beating Anderson and Eyanson the next night anyway. Arky was out of pitching keep in mind.

Mattered to us as it allowed us to save those 2 for the fighting Coastals.. thanks for the treat, stupid!
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
8007 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:43 am to
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The above is wrong. How about, LSU was the better team overall. 4 out of 5 this year over Arkansas.. LSU won the CWS.


Except it's not.

How about, turn a double play and game 2 is over. Or the LF doesn't slip, game 2 is also over. The regular season record had nothing to do with any of that.

LSU is the better team and Arkansas shite themselves when it mattered most. Both can be and are true.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 9:44 am
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24398 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:21 am to
He should be using his time analyzing how to construct a baseball team that can beat LSU, or win a natty.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24466 posts
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:22 am to
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But they still would have to have beaten us again


Yeah, it could have just been SEC on SEC crime.

Would have given Coastal a much better shot

Not convinced Arkansas wins the next one vs LSU, and if so, less likely to beat Coastal than LSU, who still was one swing away from tying things up in both games
Posted by BayouPride
Member since Sep 2006
836 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Not convinced Arkansas wins the next one vs LSU, and if so, less likely to beat Coastal than LSU, who still was one swing away from tying things up in both games


This. Well-said
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15272 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Some Gayzorback at the beach told me that they gave us the game


There comes a point in a season- in the most pressurized of moments- when champions simply don’t choke. They make the plays. They just weren’t a championship team. A very good team- yes.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21942 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Their desire to get DVH a title when he is literally incapable of doing it only prolongs their pain and suffering. It’s their own fault.


Well imagine how Mike Martin felt at Fl. State- 17 college world series appearances with ZERO championships! DVH has a ways to go before getting there...
Posted by Csmims
A sandy beach in paradise
Member since Jan 2019
3064 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:41 pm to
Arkansas had PLENTY of pitchers left
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
37801 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 2:07 pm to
Roasting pig smells good
Posted by SnoopChizzle
Right here
Member since Sep 2009
716 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1803 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 7:24 am to
Yea, I dont think the Aloy play was really that bad. Getting the easy out which also happens to be the leading run was a safe play to stay in control of the game. The big concern at that point is going for the double play and making some sort of error, then they really would have been in trouble. Taking the easy runner puts them up 2 runs with 2 outs with a guy they like on the mound. And no LSU runner on 3rd base. Where things went wrong was the next play. Not only did the arky LF not catch the game winning lone drive, but it hits him in the shoulder so hars, that it ricochets into the left field corner, allowing runners to score from 2nd and 1st base! That is crazy, and something i have never seen before. A simple drop would not have scored our 2 runs, and honestly maybe not even 1 run. And they still would have had the opportunity for the 3rd out on the next batter. The ridiculously bad luck for that ball to squeak all the way out to the wall is what did them in. And then we got even more luck with bear's infield blooper that skims their 2B glove. So much happened for the Tigers that inning it is hard to remember. We just had the right guys in the right positions, and they paid a hefty price for every mistake.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4818 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 7:34 am to
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Yea, I dont think the Aloy play was really that bad. Getting the easy out which also happens to be the leading run was a safe play to stay in control of the game


What? The runner he threw out at 3rd base was meaningless. Just a bone-headed play by someone who should know better. It appears the moment got too big for him and he panicked.
Posted by BeachTiger2018
Pinellas County FL
Member since Aug 2022
1210 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 7:35 am to
It should be customary to post this video when discussing Arky baseball from here on forward
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1803 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 7:59 am to
It wasn't super important and obviously the double play would have been better, but I wouldn't say it was meaningless. Plus it was the easier guaranteed out. Getting no outs would have been very bad. Plus runner on 3rd scores on a wild pitch and just about any other type of hit. Psychologically, not great for a pitcher. They would rather have guys on 1st and 2nd.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4818 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:41 am to
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I wouldn't say it was meaningless. Plus it was the easier guaranteed out. Getting no outs would have been very bad. Plus runner on 3rd scores on a wild pitch and just about any other type of hit. Psychologically, not great for a pitcher. They would rather have guys on 1st and 2nd.


It was unequivocally the wrong play to make for several reasons:

1) The runner going to 3rd was meaningless. If that runner scores Arkansas is still up one run. It was the runner on 1st base that would have tied the game.

2) The out at 2nd base was just as easy as the out at 3rd.

3) Going to 2nd base for the out gives you a chance for the double play that would have ended the game.

Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14641 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:00 am to
LSU gave Arkie THREE errors (tied for a season high) in that game and still Arkansas could not win it. Folks seem to forget about our mistakes in that game.
Posted by VT4
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2004
903 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:09 am to
The grounder was hit to the SS right and he had to turn toward third to glove it. So his body wasn’t in aligned to make an easy throw to second base. Would it have been in time at second? Maybe so but it probably wouldn’t have left enough time to get the runner at first at least that was what he had to have been thinking. So it was the correct play.
The line drive to LF was absolutely smoked with topspin. Not sure but the sun might have been in play. Regardless the fielder made a move backwards because the ball was so well hit and when he tried to move forward he lost footing and the ball was closing and sinking. It was going to be a hard play to convert which is why he whiffed. Had it not struck his shoulder it would have rolled to the fence anyway albeit closer to the CF to make a quicker throw to the cutoff maybe saving that second run from coming in.
Can’t view luck in a vacuum like Arkansas is conveniently spinning this as a collapse. Better to evaluate it objectively giving credit to us and ownership to them of the choices they made leading up to those moments. Brook trout is all about being dumbfounded in the moment which is directly related to conscious awareness. Jay preaches ownership and empowerment. Sounds like Arkansas needs to hear that.
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