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Arik Gilbert and Kole Taylor - a new breed of tights ends for LSU
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:07 pm
Now that Gilbert and Taylor have committed, I figure this is a rant post, not a recruiting board post. Unlike most tight ends of the past, these guys did not come to LSU to block or convert to offensive tackles, they both came to catch passes. But for LSU's new offense, its safe to say neither of them would have come.
Gilbert is one of the few players you get that is truly physically mature enough to be SEC ready as a freshman. Julio Jones and Devin White are two others that come to mind who could physically compete immediately.
At 6'5" 250 lbs, Gilbert is a man-child. What is amazing about him if you watch his tape, is that he looks much more like a wide out running routes. He has a very lean look for a big man, carries his weight well. He is an nightmare mismatch, I can't see a Kary Vincent type nickel back covering him in the red zone.
He is the recruit I am most excited about. Joe Brady must be drooling at the thought of how to use Gilbert. He could be a generational talent at tight end.
I figured Kole Taylor was kept to eventually moved to tackle. But then I looked at his profile and read up on him. Taylor is 6' 7" 228 pounds, but doesn't have the look of a future tackle nor is he as physically mature as Gilbert. He will benefit from a couple years with Moffit.
That actually works out well for LSU. Gilbert is a three year player. Taylor could take a redshirt and might even be a five year player. One thing clear from his profile, he came to catch passes.
Now of course you want tight ends who can block. In the old LSU offense, that's most all they did. Now they do a lot more chip blocking, putting a quick shoulder on a rusher before heading into their routes.
Back to Gilbert. Those who have not watched his tape should. Seriously, you have to watch it to believe it. I cant think of LSU ever having anyone who looked like that coming out of high school.
And I remember one poster getting hammered for saying Gilbert could play defense. He would dominate as a rush end too, but he is ridiculous at tight end.
I dont think people realize how great Gilbert makes this class.
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Gilbert is one of the few players you get that is truly physically mature enough to be SEC ready as a freshman. Julio Jones and Devin White are two others that come to mind who could physically compete immediately.
At 6'5" 250 lbs, Gilbert is a man-child. What is amazing about him if you watch his tape, is that he looks much more like a wide out running routes. He has a very lean look for a big man, carries his weight well. He is an nightmare mismatch, I can't see a Kary Vincent type nickel back covering him in the red zone.
He is the recruit I am most excited about. Joe Brady must be drooling at the thought of how to use Gilbert. He could be a generational talent at tight end.
I figured Kole Taylor was kept to eventually moved to tackle. But then I looked at his profile and read up on him. Taylor is 6' 7" 228 pounds, but doesn't have the look of a future tackle nor is he as physically mature as Gilbert. He will benefit from a couple years with Moffit.
That actually works out well for LSU. Gilbert is a three year player. Taylor could take a redshirt and might even be a five year player. One thing clear from his profile, he came to catch passes.
Now of course you want tight ends who can block. In the old LSU offense, that's most all they did. Now they do a lot more chip blocking, putting a quick shoulder on a rusher before heading into their routes.
Back to Gilbert. Those who have not watched his tape should. Seriously, you have to watch it to believe it. I cant think of LSU ever having anyone who looked like that coming out of high school.
And I remember one poster getting hammered for saying Gilbert could play defense. He would dominate as a rush end too, but he is ridiculous at tight end.
I dont think people realize how great Gilbert makes this class.
LINK
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:09 pm to paper tiger
I have seen his highlights. Amazing talent!
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:09 pm to paper tiger
quote:
Taylor is 6' 7" 228 pounds
Yeah so picture Stephen Rivers
Dont know why this is getting downvoted?
Rivers was literally 6-7 235 his senior year at NSU
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:20 pm to paper tiger
Jesus he looks like a more polished OJ Howard.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:26 pm to paper tiger
Have an upvote friend. Could not agree more. Gilbert is the highested rated TE in the history of 247 rankings. 5 years ago would anyone believe that LSU could land that TE from OOS at that. Unbelievable.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:28 pm to paper tiger
Gilbert is a day 1 starter and will be terrorizing defenses immediately. Taylor can be really good and when he initially committed to LSU put out a pledge that he would not be out worked and will push himself to be the best. He needs an offseason of refinement and SEC conditioning, but I like the commit.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:33 pm to BayouCowboy
I know Gilbert is technically a TE but he will most definitely be used as a hybrid receiver. He is the only reason I don't feel worse about losing the two WR's Don't get me wrong it's never good to lose guys you want, especially ones that you had committed to you, but it makes me able to stomach it.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:36 pm to paper tiger
Myles Brennan is going to have a field day next year.
4 x 1000 yard recievers
Gilbert = first LSU TE - 1000 yard recieving
Brennan did it with his high school TE and he’s about to do it again.
4 x 1000 yard recievers
Gilbert = first LSU TE - 1000 yard recieving
Brennan did it with his high school TE and he’s about to do it again.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:37 pm to HamBone14
quote:
Jesus he looks like a more polished OJ Howard.
I did the radio for high school football for about ten years, including a playoff game with Devin White.
For a lot of high school teams, particularly 3a and below, the teams end up having to play younger kids at some positions.
Where you see the really small guys are at corner and safety, its not unusual at all to see a 5'6" 140 pound kid playing corner.
I would cringe for these kids when White would bust loose in the secondary, some kids no matter how small they are, are fearless.
I thought the same thing looking at this tape. Go back and look at it to see how small some of the poor kids are and the different ways they react to seeing Gilbert in their world. LOL.
Force = mass times acceleration. When you get a 6' 5" 250 kid moving as fast downhill as Gilbert does, that's a lot of force coming at some of those babies trying to tackle him.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:38 pm to paper tiger
I remember signing Pettigrew as a 4 star TE 4 years ago.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:53 pm to paper tiger
Man that Gilbert sure looks like a DE
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:29 pm to Bow08tie
A DE that can run the route tree, catch the ball and cause mis matches out the wazoo!! How would you like to be a 6’1” 189 lbs DB and have to cover that guy in space.
AINT HAPPENIN.
AINT HAPPENIN.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:40 pm to paper tiger
quote:By the time he gets to LSU, he'll be "Big" enough to play immediately at TE. He'll not need a season of conditioning with Moffit.
Taylor is 6' 7" 228 pounds, but doesn't have the look of a future tackle nor is he as physically mature as Gilbert. He will benefit from a couple years with Moffit.
Moss, Gilbert and Taylor at TE, with our receiving Corps. How do you stop that?...….
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:49 pm to semjase
Don’t sleep on Kole Taylor. Both these guys gonna feed on mismatches. Our offense thrives on mismatches. Steve and Joe are drooling.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:51 pm to Clark W Griswold
quote:
I remember signing Pettigrew as a 4 star TE 4 years ago.
I like Pettigrew, but not even close in comparison. Gilbert is the highest rated TE in 247 rankings history. He's the only TE to win the Gatorade player of the year.
He's going to practice with the team during bowl prep like Stingley did. He's a generational player like Stingley.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:53 pm to paper tiger
A little offtopic, but man how big is that QB in those highlights? Is it just me or is he as big as Arik and his linemen?
Posted on 12/18/19 at 5:56 pm to metryboy
Taylor is gonna be special. Have you watched his film? He lines up at wr and looks like one running routes and catching passes. We got two special players at TE.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:33 pm to paper tiger
Arik Gilbert is a game changer. He’s a 255 pound TE with the athleticism of a WR. He will see the field early at LSU.
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:58 pm to Clark W Griswold
Yeah, Pettigrew is a an absolute mystery to me. The guy must not "get it" mentally, he sure has the physical build for it. Thought he would have had a monster year this year, got buried on the depth chart and hardly played.
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