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re: Anyone heard of Saban before LSU?

Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by DaBike
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:32 pm to
Most people who followed football then knew of him.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:35 pm to
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I agree that a coach hire should go beyond a coach having 1good year because he was tied to a star QB like Hallman was with Farve. Instead look into a coach that been hired and his team has shown steady improvement over a few years.
This is going to end up being sort of a repeat post for me.....

I've come to believe that HC's, at least our HC's, or maybe HC's where the athletes are of high caliber, should either be a former D coach or at least D minded.

The reason I think that is because they don't go into any one game with the idea of an "offensive system"; note different than offensive philosophy (as in, I run the spread system vs. I plan on running the ball, philosophy).

The reason not having a set system (other than the obvious flexibility) is that a D coach is practiced at looking at defenses. Which means he is good at finding defensive weaknesses. Then that coach, once he's identified the weakness(es) of the opposing team will tell his OC attack X,Y,& Z.

I'll use Belichek as an example. He does that. That's why one week you'll see Brady throw 60 times. Next week, he ran the ball 48 times.

I hate to say this, but Danielson said it another way during the MSU v Bama game this Sat: "balance" means being able to take what the defense is giving you on a given play, not run/pass ratio". If you are attacking weakness, always, you automatically are balanced under that definition.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Yes, he was known but after we beat Mich St in the bowl, I don't think people were beating the door down to get him.




Yeah, no one was beating down his door except the New York Giants and Indianapolis Colts
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:39 pm to
yes
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:54 pm to
i dont think it is as easy as you think, but Miles has proved that LSU basically will recruit itself. A coach with even a little gameday acumen could & would be wildly successful at LSU
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19726 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:55 pm to
you do realize that Saban was head coach at Michigan State when we hired him. And had been a DC in the NFL. Of course he wasn't the elite coach he is now, but he wasn't an unknown and had a very solid resume when we landed him.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:21 pm to
Nope and everyone wents nuts like WTF, he was like our 3rd or 4th pick after everyone else dissed us
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28033 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:56 pm to
Yeah. Dinardo whipped his arse in the 1995 Indy Bowl.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:31 pm to
He was known, not only by LSU folks paying attention but by NFL teams. He could have had the Colts or Giants job while still at Michigan State.
Posted by Louis58
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:29 pm to
I watched college football from way back. I am amused by the people who now say it was a great hire then.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:30 pm to
A lot of people heard of Saban before... I swear everyone that makes this statement is under 25
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77899 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:31 pm to
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Exactly. Or Miles, or Dinardo? No. LSU has done as much or more for all three guys than they've ever done for us and until we realize this our program will sit in mediocrity.


DiNardo actually came with more hype than Miles.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:34 pm to
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Anyone heard of Saban before LSU? by Louis58


Not only did most know of Saban, but I remember everyone being happy with his hire as well...
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:38 pm to
Yea from the Indy bowl
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:12 pm to
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He didn't emerge from nowhwere but we absolutely helped his career as much as he helped our program.




That is one heck of a stretch. LSU had Hallman and Dinardo in succession. Saban took a Michigan State team, on probation, and built them into a winner.
How many SEC Championships had LSU won prior to Saban? It took him about three years to win a BCS Championship.
In the ten yeears prior to Saban we won no SEC Championships. In the eleven years after Saban arrived in BR we played in five and won four. We have not won or even played in the championship since 2011.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10436 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:16 pm to
Yes, Dinardo's Indy bitch.
Posted by Beetlejuice
Member since Apr 2013
578 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:18 pm to
Saban was a talented coach at Michigan State. The mere fact that you didn't know about him does not suggest that his career began at LSU.

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83023 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:18 pm to
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Anyone heard of Saban before LSU? by tigerfan84
Yeah, I watched the 1995 independence bowl


Posted by PawnMaster
Down Yonder
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:51 pm to
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i dont think it is as easy as you think, but Miles has proved that LSU basically will recruit itself. A coach with even a little gameday acumen could & would be wildly successful at LSU


You must not have watched LSU football prior to 2000.
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