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re: Andrew Whitworth is Salty about the no call
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:17 am to AlwysATgr
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:17 am to AlwysATgr
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I think you're missing his point. It's a false dichotomy between "potentially effect" and "one that would have ended it" because no one knows how much effect an earlier bad call would have had or changed the flow. How far back do you want to 'rewind' and restart the game?
I understand his point completely, any call could alter the outcome. The point that he’s missing is there was no could involved with this particular call. Considering the time left on the clock and field position, that call directly changed the outcome of the game. Throw the flag and the saints win, period. Like I said, if this happens in the second quarter then a few people bitch but it’s largely a non-story.
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:27 am to BBATiger
He plays in an exhibition league not a sports league, much like professional wrestling. I don't get why people still think professional football is real.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:28 am to BBATiger
It's too bad for the Rams that they have to go through this. They didn't do anything wrong, other than one player on their team going for a man's head to disrupt a TD. Still, even that player wasn't responsible for the flag not being thrown.
However, the fact still remains, they don't belong in the game. I take issue with anyone, whether on the team or a fan of the team saying they would not feel cheated in this situation. I am certain anyone having to endure this would feel very cheated and be bitter about it for years to come. It is unacceptable and I'm sorry if Rams players are tired of hearing about it but that's the way it is. The only good that can come out of this is if there are changes to the rules about being able to challenge penalties or none calls. The only way that happens is if people don't let it go. In the end, it will benefit every team to get this right. The Rams and the Saints are paying the price for an issue the NFL was aware of and should have been addressed years ago. If Whitworth wants to be mad at anyone, he can direct that to the league and the Competition Committee which should have corrected this long ago.
However, the fact still remains, they don't belong in the game. I take issue with anyone, whether on the team or a fan of the team saying they would not feel cheated in this situation. I am certain anyone having to endure this would feel very cheated and be bitter about it for years to come. It is unacceptable and I'm sorry if Rams players are tired of hearing about it but that's the way it is. The only good that can come out of this is if there are changes to the rules about being able to challenge penalties or none calls. The only way that happens is if people don't let it go. In the end, it will benefit every team to get this right. The Rams and the Saints are paying the price for an issue the NFL was aware of and should have been addressed years ago. If Whitworth wants to be mad at anyone, he can direct that to the league and the Competition Committee which should have corrected this long ago.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:29 am to BBATiger
frick that ugly biscuit head POS
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:44 am to BBATiger
I'm getting tired of hearing about this shite with the Rams and their miss calls and trying to equate it to what happened to the Saints. Hell, even after that blown call they even missed another one when Brees was hit in the head on the INT he threw in OT. Bottom line is the refs badly missed a call that should've decided the game in regulation which gave the perception that the integrity of the game is in question.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:47 am to BBATiger
He's not wrong in what he said
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:49 am to BBATiger
just wait til Tom Brady gets another sweetheart call in the super bowl and the Rams suffer for it.. He'll be singing a different tune.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:51 am to BBATiger
Saints fans are out of control.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:52 am to REG861
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just wait til Tom Brady gets another sweetheart call in the super bowl and the Rams suffer for it.. He'll be singing a different tune.
I can guarantee you that this will happen.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:54 am to ShreveportTiger1987
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He's not wrong in what he said
No chance he would be saying this if the roles were reversed.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:57 am to BBATiger
He is absolutely correct. That game was lost in the first quarter by Payton or on that last series by Payton by throwing instead of running and forcing the Rams to start play with little to no time on the clock. The defense let them tie it. Brees threw a pick in Ot because of the pass rush in his face.
It is all part of the game and excuses. No one play determines the outcome of a game that went to OT. It is a culmination of everything you do.
Will Wade is correct too.
It is all part of the game and excuses. No one play determines the outcome of a game that went to OT. It is a culmination of everything you do.
Will Wade is correct too.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:58 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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Throw the flag and the saints win, period.
The thing is you technically can’t say “Saints win period”. It wasn’t a kneel out the clock situation. They would have still had to run 3 plays and then execute a successful field goal attempt to take the lead. Heck the Ram’s would have still gotten the ball back with a little time on the clock, and we all know what happened in that same situation last year, the “Minnesota Miracle” happened. Sure the chances of a Saints victory would have been VERY high, but no guarantee.
So the point he makes about the missed face mask is legit. You can say that missed penalty cost them a touchdown. Which would have forced the Saints to score a touchdown on their last possession. So if the call is made correctly the chance of a Rams victory would have been really high at that point.
The missed PI call was atrocious. But to discredit the Rams by saying the ONLY reason they won is because of the REFs isn’t fair to them, and most importantly isn’t accurate.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:02 pm to Lgrnwd
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ure the chances of a Saints victory would have been VERY high, but no guarantee.
I believe the field goal being kicked because the PI wasn't called dropped the Saints to a 79% chance of winning. Still pretty high.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:11 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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I think the Rams win.
They sure could...will likely be a tight game. Look at the Pats' margin of victory in SB's...we're barely better than the teams we beat.
The difference is normally Brady and his 2-minute drill at the end of these big games. Just happened twice to end the KC game last week.
However, his 500-something yards and like 5 TD's in last year's SB wasn't enough with our terrible defense. It's weird how our defense has been so porous in recent years.
If the Pats' defense is able to make a few stops, I think the Pats will take it.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:15 pm to BBATiger
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That'd be first-and-goal at the 1 down three points. If you look at our odds from the 1 this season, that's seven points. So, they'd be down four, and a field goal wouldn't matter. They would have had to score in that situation either way.
It's easier to score when you have 1st and goal from the 2 and can run the clock down so this excuse is dumb.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:17 pm to BBATiger
The "facemask" on Goff wasn't a foul. It was incidental contact and that's why it wasn't called. At best, it's arguable. 500 out of 1000 people will agree with him and the other 500 will disagree.
The no-calls on the PI is not arguable. It's fact. 1000 people out of 1000 people agree with that. I have yet to see or hear anyone argue that the ref called it correctly. This is where his argument goes off the rails.
The no-calls on the PI is not arguable. It's fact. 1000 people out of 1000 people agree with that. I have yet to see or hear anyone argue that the ref called it correctly. This is where his argument goes off the rails.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:17 pm to BBATiger
Hes just mad because he knows they shouldn't be in the bowl, fuk the NFL and him
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:24 pm to DesertCajun
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He's 100% correct.
He's not though, lets say they score the hypothetical TD on that drive. The Saints are down by4 and have have driven the ball down the field. With the Non call being called, the saints have the ball at what the 4? we are very much in position to score a TD still and win the game.
THAT Non call changed the entire game- gave the other team the ball back with more time on the clock than what could/should have been. it changed the outcome.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:30 pm to AlwysATgr
Nope
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:34 pm to ShreveportTiger1987
Yes he is...don't isolate the facemask call. Please include the illegal hands to the face of Brees on the interception. Throw in Littleton's personal fouls that concussed one of our players and he has NO basis for his position
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