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re: After 2.5 seasons, can anyone really envision Kelly fielding a NC team?

Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:24 pm to
Posted by CynicalTiger08
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:24 pm to
No, but which coach should we have to make out next NC a reality?
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 11:25 pm
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6152 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:24 pm to
Baker is not the problem. Nuss’ cowboy shite and Sloan’s running scheme are.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:25 pm to
yep hes recruiting some beasts
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
2145 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:26 pm to
He had a NC caliber team last year he just totally wiffed on all his defensive staff hires. He fixed that mistake but unfortunately we don't have the same caliber of offense.

As others have mentioned the Underwood years will be Kelly's best chance to win a NC here. What's giving me hope is how well they develop Jayden it's night and day from when he first got to LSU and the player he developed into. And Underwood has the tools to be that caliber of QB you need to complete for a championship.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64503 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:26 pm to
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yep hes recruiting some beasts


We have a lot of beasts on the roster that haven't come close to playing to their high ranking, so pardon me for not jumping up and down.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:27 pm to
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Not if we stick with Joe Sloan as OC.


Pair him with a Running Game Coordinator analyst to help him. Someone who really knows how to get creative from shotgun sets. There are lots of former OCs out there in need of career rehab. This isn’t rocket science.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:28 pm to
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We have a lot of beasts on the roster that haven't come close to playing to their high ranking


Like who
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:29 pm to
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6 years into his tenure before we can really compete?


Your lord and master took the wheels off and burned the fricking house down in just 5.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41655 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:29 pm to
I did in the second quarter,
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3214 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:29 pm to
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Yes. We are farther along than I ever expected after the final two years of Orgeron.
He is in year 3. Name a top WR or DB he has put on this team? You know the strengths in Louisiana. He has failed and will continue to fail. ND is better off now that he is gone.
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
1275 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:30 pm to
You can envision us being better than UGA, Bama, ATM, UT, Oregon and Ohio state all in the same year with this soft arse limited offense. Underwood would have to be Jayden and we'd need 2 first round WRs at the same time. I just can't see it
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
1275 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:33 pm to
But Kelly wants to run Kelly's offense, he said that's what he did at ND no matter the OC, thats why he promoted OCs from within. It's why he brought Denbrock in and promoted Sloan. He's never gone outside his house to get an OC
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:36 pm to
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Like who


Several O recruits/transfers. Ryan, Burns, Emery, and Guillory. All 4 and 5 stars and none came close to reaching their potential under either staff. But O still recruited them all.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2415 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:37 pm to
We Will N…E…V…E…R…sniff a Natty with Kelly!
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32597 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:39 pm to
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But Kelly wants to run Kelly's offense, he said that's what he did at ND no matter the OC, thats why he promoted OCs from within. It's why he brought Denbrock in and promoted Sloan. He's never gone outside his house to get an OC


We aren’t running the same offense as last year and especially the year before under Denbrock. Almost no 12 personnel (a Kelly staple). The sets are different. Most of the tight sets are gone and Denbrock ran the hell out of them. The routes are different. Denbrock hardly ran RPO and Sloan runs it all the time.

You are a casual who doesn’t know what he’s looking at.
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 11:41 pm
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
1275 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:41 pm to
That's what I said.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22761 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:42 pm to
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quote:

The Underwood years will be his best chance. If he can’t get it done he never will



We're replacing the entire O-line and at least our top receiver and TE next season. Good luck.
That's fine.

Our O line is good with pass protection, and pretty bad with run blocking. We'll be fine. We thought the D Line would be weak as shite this season, it's probably the best unit we have. Same thing can happen with the O line.
As for TE, you probably see Green move back over.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3652 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:46 pm to
Has he ever won a Natty? Well there's your answer.
Posted by superdragon
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2010
202 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:46 pm to
Nope. He will never take us to the promised land. People love to bash Orgeron but he fielded the greatest LSU team in history. I don’t see Kelly doing that. His ceiling is 9 regular season wins.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64503 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:47 pm to
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Our O line is good with pass protection


Our OL is good with pass protection because we have two first round picks at OT. Both will be gone next year with no clear replacements that have any experience.
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