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re: According to an article posted on Death Valley Voice difference in CMM’s buyout is:

Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:44 am to
Posted by PNG Futbol
Member since Aug 2022
617 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:44 am to
Blame Woodward. The obviously better choice was to hire an experienced coach either out of a job or wanting to move back up to a power 5 job with a chance to prove himself. Give him a short term contract with the chance to keep the job based o n performance. Once the potential sanctions were past, hire that coach long term or go looking without any black marks on the job.

Instead we take a shot on a good coach at a smaller mid major, give a super long term contract, and suffer. Woodward should have known mid major coaches are gambles. No way should his contract should have had such a big buyout after 3 years, much less for many years after that.

Woodward needs to take ownership, find the money, and buyout the current overwhelmed coach.
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5722 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:47 am to
Pretty big deal , especially when basketball loses money. Do away with mens BB and throw the house at FB. Thats sarcasm in case some of you need understand lol.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10573 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:47 am to
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Regardless, I imagine the two sides could go for a negotiated reduced settlement


that’s always possible, but if you’re MM, my would you?
it’s in your contract how much you get, so why would you accept less?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71996 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Who would come in and make us a ‘blue blood’? I just don’t see much changing and as much as I enjoyed the excitement that WW brought, didn’t see it as sustainable here. Maybe I’m wrong.


I don’t follow this logic.

I mean all it takes is the right coach. LSU isn’t a mid tier job. It’s a massive brand in the SEC.

Are you implying we should just retain MM and continue to suck bc it’s inevitable?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88006 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:56 am to
John Brady had a worse situation with no portal and he didn’t get a 7 year deal
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78211 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:00 pm to
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He'll make $2.9m, $3m, $3.1m, and $3.2m over those 4 seasons for a total of $12.2m.


The contract i saw doesn’t have him making 2.8 till his last year of the contract.

LINK

10.5 left on the contract.

8.4 buyout
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4432 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:07 pm to
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why did you need to give this dude 7 years


Bc due to the pending penalties, no decent coach was going to come here without protecting themselves financially.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34381 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:12 pm to
Why are we putting multi million dollar buyouts on contracts to mid major coaches in the first place?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78211 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Why are we putting multi million dollar buyouts on contracts to mid major coaches in the first place?


so they will agree to them?

Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5599 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 1:25 pm to
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Who would come in and make us a ‘blue blood’?


IMHO you have at least some verbal agreements in place before showing Mc the door. To put it another way, do you pay $7/$9M and take another risk? No. You minimize that risk by having a top flight guy verbally on board.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12635 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 1:27 pm to
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The contract i saw doesn’t have him making 2.8 till his last year of the contract.

I think you’re just looking at the supplemental compensation. You have to add his “base salary” of $400k.
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
4205 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 1:29 pm to
Can easily make up that $1.4 mil difference with a competitive team that can win a couple games in the big dance.
Get rid of him now
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
5363 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 1:29 pm to
I think it was because they didnt know what the punishment would be, so they threw in a few years for a rebuild with a more traditional mindset that it would take 3 years to do.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7736 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 1:37 pm to
Just a complete joke of what incompetent coaches everywhere are making. Almost makes you think the AD's are getting a kickback. Just absurd pay for a coach, especially with no proven record .
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78211 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 2:04 pm to
that’s makes sense
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14460 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 2:10 pm to
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We can't afford not to fire him. He is burying this program.
Tragic news for all the McMA's. (Mediocrity Acceptors)

They're all in their Wheaties right about now because it's a forgone conclusion that McHallman is out the door.

Hopefully that happens before the season is over, like at the next 20 point loss. (Patrick can close it out)..........
This post was edited on 2/9/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Dwainwright
Member since Jun 2017
758 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 2:46 pm to
You rehire Wade. No brainer.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33792 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 3:58 pm to
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It was the only way to convince a coach to come to a team that was facing NCAA sanctions and had zero scholarship players on the roster.

Woodward still needs to answer for these ridiculous contracts.


Now this is bullshite.
Posted by TigerScribe
Member since Dec 2005
1201 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

The contract i saw doesn’t have him making 2.8 till his last year of the contract.


You're looking at just the "supplemental compensation" part of his annual pay (which is the bulk of his annual comp). He also has an annual base salary each year of $400K. The buyout language specifies that LSU would owe him 80% of base salary plus supplemental comp.
Posted by TigerScribe
Member since Dec 2005
1201 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

that’s always possible, but if you’re MM, my would you?
it’s in your contract how much you get, so why would you accept less?


I actually kind of agree with you. The only reason I can think of that MM might consider a negotiated settlement as a lump sum payment at less than what he's fully owed is if he just didn't want to have to strive to meet the requirement of finding another job that fits the criteria. That maybe he'd just want to have freedom to do what he wants, when he wants, and not have to answer to LSU on it.

But I imagine he'd likely would think he wouldn't have a hard time finding some sort of job, whether coaching at a lower level, or something else that would qualify. If so, I wouldn't settle for less, either.
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