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re: A little FBI NOA education for the board
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:52 am to charlestonchief
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:52 am to charlestonchief
The stuff in that article was simply the supposed NCAA accusations against Wade, and from what I remember, there was nothing to them. Wade has been fighting back which is what he should be doing.
We will see what comes of it, but if they had such clear evidence of multiple payments or offers, it wouldn't be 2022 when the NOA is actually released. Plain and Simple. I am also pretty sure LSU would know as much if not more than the NCAA regarding those, so them not firing him leads me to believe there is little to no substance to those claims.
Wouldn't surprise me if Dickhead V was the source and wrote a bunch of crap on napkins to try and claim it was Wade.
We will see what comes of it, but if they had such clear evidence of multiple payments or offers, it wouldn't be 2022 when the NOA is actually released. Plain and Simple. I am also pretty sure LSU would know as much if not more than the NCAA regarding those, so them not firing him leads me to believe there is little to no substance to those claims.
Wouldn't surprise me if Dickhead V was the source and wrote a bunch of crap on napkins to try and claim it was Wade.
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:01 pm to PP7 for heisman
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FBI investigation into corruption in college basketball
How ridiculous is it that the FBI is investigating this nonsense while the corruption in government destroys our republic more every day?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:15 pm to LSUMurple
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In NCAA documents obtained by ESPN in August 2020, there's allegations in NCAA paperwork that Wade either arranged or offered "impermissible payments" to at least 11 prospects.
If true, tPear is an idiot to pay in 2020 after the smart arse offer crack down in 2019.
Reading is hard but documents were obtained in 2020
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:23 pm to PP7 for heisman
Great info. Thanks. Please submit this to all the media hacks that make it sound like LSU is on the verge of the death penalty
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:27 pm to PP7 for heisman
You left out a few things just FYI
Chuck person was fired & criminally prosecuted. Bruce Pearl was never really involved
Assistant coach Richardson fired & arrested.
Mark Gofried 1 yr show cause
Asst coach Brown 6yr show cause
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Auburn
Chuck person was fired & criminally prosecuted. Bruce Pearl was never really involved
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Arizona
Assistant coach Richardson fired & arrested.
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NC state
Mark Gofried 1 yr show cause
Asst coach Brown 6yr show cause
Posted on 3/9/22 at 4:04 pm to LSUMurple
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In NCAA documents obtained by ESPN in August 2020, there's allegations in NCAA paperwork that Wade either arranged or offered "impermissible payments" to at least 11 prospects.
If true, tPear is an idiot to pay in 2020 after the smart arse offer crack down in 2019.
Good Lord man try to comprehend what the frick you’re reading.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 5:06 pm to PP7 for heisman
Said it before and I’ll say it again
Deny, deny, deny.
They don’t have shite, if they did we’d have heard about it when they investigated Javonte Smart. This is just harassment. frick the ncaa. Extend The Pear.
Deny, deny, deny.
They don’t have shite, if they did we’d have heard about it when they investigated Javonte Smart. This is just harassment. frick the ncaa. Extend The Pear.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 5:13 pm to mytigger
Kansas will skate no matter what.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 5:34 pm to DhanTigers212
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Deny the allegations and tell the NCAA to frick off.
It worked for UNC.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 5:39 pm to PP7 for heisman
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LSU has this
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In 2017, Wade was caught on FBI wiretaps with aspiring agent Christian Dawkins discussing a “strong-arse offer” for prospect Javonte Smart,
Unless and until Javonte Smart testifies he got paid there is nothing for the NCAA to penalize LSU for, no matter what Wade said. The strong arse offer can be spun as many ways as suits anyone but it still does not confirm Wade broke any rules.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 5:48 pm to Lester Earl
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Chuck person was fired & criminally prosecuted. Bruce Pearl was never really involved
“Never really involved “. You know Jack. You have an opinion, but you know nothing. If you think head coaches at that level do not know what happens in their programs, you are dead wrong.
IMHO
Posted on 3/9/22 at 6:11 pm to PP7 for heisman
LSU us made a lot of changes since troubles began. Gone are Alleva, miles, coach O, and a few other less notable.
There’s a reason.
Wade is one of alleva’s star hires.
A lot of questions-
Was the program corrupt from top down? Just parts?
Was alleva corrupt or just poor oversight?
The house cleaning and stories that I’ve heard make me think that we had some systemic issues.
From the wiretap recordings I’ve heard, I’m convinced that wade was talking about paying players to play at LSU. Whether or not actual payments were made is something I just don’t know. And maybe that matters.
I’m hoping that wade comes out of this with minor scrapes at worst. It would be easier, cheaper and possibly more productive to keep him rather than hire someone else.
I’m cautiously optimistic with the concern being that wade might be The last shoe to drop in the house cleaning to show the ncaa that we’ve cleaned the house.
Things get a bit more complicated when considering LSU’s treatment of Wade compared to how it treated others who have lawsuits out there. LSU has to show some degree of consistency in how they deal with people implicated.
There’s a reason.
Wade is one of alleva’s star hires.
A lot of questions-
Was the program corrupt from top down? Just parts?
Was alleva corrupt or just poor oversight?
The house cleaning and stories that I’ve heard make me think that we had some systemic issues.
From the wiretap recordings I’ve heard, I’m convinced that wade was talking about paying players to play at LSU. Whether or not actual payments were made is something I just don’t know. And maybe that matters.
I’m hoping that wade comes out of this with minor scrapes at worst. It would be easier, cheaper and possibly more productive to keep him rather than hire someone else.
I’m cautiously optimistic with the concern being that wade might be The last shoe to drop in the house cleaning to show the ncaa that we’ve cleaned the house.
Things get a bit more complicated when considering LSU’s treatment of Wade compared to how it treated others who have lawsuits out there. LSU has to show some degree of consistency in how they deal with people implicated.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 6:14 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:That's it? Nothing from Dawkins on the stand other than implying WW's got away with shite and he's a Gangster?
LSU has this
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In 2017, Wade was caught on FBI wiretaps with aspiring agent Christian Dawkins discussing a “strong-arse offer” for prospect Javonte Smart,
Posted on 3/9/22 at 6:54 pm to SlidellCajun
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The house cleaning and stories that I’ve heard make me think that we had some systemic issues.
really hate saying this because it’s used so much: this shite happens at every school. College athletics has been dirty for decades.
Also, Alleva was the worst AD I’ve witnessed and I’m so glad he’s gone. Munoz deserves credit for the Wade hire.
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I’m hoping that wade comes out of this with minor scrapes at worst. It would be easier, cheaper and possibly more productive to keep him rather than hire someone else.
Wade isn’t going anywhere. Lipsey was the driving factor getting Alleva fired and it was 99% to do with how he handled the Wade situation. Lipsey loves LSU, especially basketball and Wade to be specific. He’d fight SW to a degree if he tried firing him.
Again, WW not going anywhere. His attorney would’ve never let him have that stipulation in his contract if they thought something bad was coming.
They’ve dropped these articles at the same time, what, 2 of the last 3 years? The old guard in college basketball hate Wade because he didn’t play ball but mostly because he got into and rose through the ranks different then most and he doesn’t have all these deep roots to old school former coaches like the majority of the other coaches. He’s a threat to the old guard. At the end of last season with everything we were losing it was accepted LSU would likely finish in the bottom 3 of the SEC. He did great with the portal and lost the best shooter before the season and they’ve still outperformed expectations. I know a lot of “fans” have melted the second half of the season because of the skid but they are insane for wanting Wade gone. He’s still young. Will get better as a coach to go along with his recruiting and will put it all together soon and make a final 4 within the next couple of seasons.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 7:00 pm to DhanTigers212
Yeah this isn't the 3rd grade where your rewarded for being honest,
Tell them to bring me evidence or choke on a dick
Tell them to bring me evidence or choke on a dick
Posted on 3/13/22 at 8:52 pm to Quesadilla Superman
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Wade isn’t going anywhere. Lipsey was the driving factor getting Alleva fired and it was 99% to do with how he handled the Wade situation. Lipsey loves LSU, especially basketball and Wade to be specific. He’d fight SW to a degree if he tried firing him. Again, WW not going anywhere. His attorney would’ve never let him have that stipulation in his contract if they thought something bad was coming.
You wanna reconsider this post?
Posted on 3/13/22 at 9:17 pm to PP7 for heisman
One thing to add, if you look at the Kansas investigation, they were issued an amended NOA which has extended the timeline. They are by no means free and clear of the NCAA. Yet.
I don't have the patience to read the entire thing, but it centers around their relationship with Adidas and while Level 1 charges exist, there is a lot more he said she said than the case against LSU.
In a nutshell, Wade first with held requested docs and then fought the NCAA on the issue of releasing the docs and lost. I assume the docs to be phone and bank account documents. Once he submitted those in what looks like November of 2021, it was the smoking gun and he and LSU were toast.
I don't have the patience to read the entire thing, but it centers around their relationship with Adidas and while Level 1 charges exist, there is a lot more he said she said than the case against LSU.
In a nutshell, Wade first with held requested docs and then fought the NCAA on the issue of releasing the docs and lost. I assume the docs to be phone and bank account documents. Once he submitted those in what looks like November of 2021, it was the smoking gun and he and LSU were toast.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 9:30 pm to PP7 for heisman
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In 2017, Wade was caught on FBI wiretaps with aspiring agent Christian Dawkins discussing a “strong-arse offer” for prospect Javonte Smart,
Yep. This is all they have.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 10:25 pm to DhanTigers212
Is it against NCAA rules to offer a recruit 'a strong a$$ offer'? That could mean anything. Is there anything that was said that attaches money to that offer.
He could have been offering numerous other things....top coaching, top gym facilities, whatever
LSU most assuredly should have made NCAA tell everyone just what that 'strong a$$ offer' actually was.
And they would have had to say they didn't know and case dismissed.
He could have been offering numerous other things....top coaching, top gym facilities, whatever
LSU most assuredly should have made NCAA tell everyone just what that 'strong a$$ offer' actually was.
And they would have had to say they didn't know and case dismissed.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 11:43 pm to mytigger
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Said it before and I’ll say it again
Deny, deny, deny.
They don’t have shite, if they did we’d have heard about it when they investigated Javonte Smart. This is just harassment. frick the ncaa. Extend The Pear.
I don't think there's any doubt Javonte was paid to go here, however, when he and his family was grilled by the NCAA they didn't crack and they couldn't prove it, he played his years at LSU EVEN WITH THE WIRETAP and nothing happened to him. You NEVER admit anything or cooperate with the NCAA because they'll hammer you and protect the blue bloods.
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