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re: A few examples of just how open our WRs were yesterday.

Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:41 am to
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:41 am to
This is very puzzling. I would have thought he would be much better at seeing the field, but he is not.
Posted by slicc3333
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:54 am to
GIVE HIM TIME GUYs....come on ---One game in covid year and your ready to drag him off the field --I am glad you guys are not coaches but Tuesday arm chair QB WITH rewindable TVs. Miles will come around---reading defense takes time... Jalen Hurts stepped in with a loaded team--Brennan did not. with all the draft and OPT outers I am amazed we did that good. We usually have a cupcake to work all this out--this year we don't. So I am behind our coaches and our QB!!! Hang in there miles --it will come to you --game just has to slow down for ya.,.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Terrace Marshall on an underneath crossing route with zero defenders around him (he's running to the right, where there was nothing but open green space):





It's the receiver behind Marshall that is crossing the face of the safety that is wide open.

WRs that are even are open. WRs running routes over the middle that cross the face of the safety are open. These are basics of being a good QB. Him struggling with this is a sign that he just doesn't have what it takes. The guy is a 4th year junior.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:05 am to
Might have to start a freshman to at least get some playing time for next year!!!
Posted by Not Cooper
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:07 am to
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These are basics of being a good QB. Him struggling with this is a sign that he just doesn't have what it takes. The guy is a 4th year junior.

No. It's a sign he doesn't have that chemistry or trust with his guys. In film study he will see this, his guys will see this, the coaches will see this. I think you'll see him get more decisive as the weeks go on.

In this specific picture he's waiting on Marshall to clear, and that intermediate route will be wide open, but he just didn't have time for it. An experienced QB feels the pressure and hits Marshall or gives the deep route a chance. Myles does not have that game experience yet.

If this week we see the same indecisiveness we can say it's a pattern. I think a lot of this will be addressed though.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:44 am to
Those are good examples. Like I said, this was happening all game.

I found another (which is perhaps the worst) with Gilbert.


Gilbert runs 10 yards near the first down marker and gets behind all of the defenders. There was NO ONE else near him. You can see his left arm start to come up waving Myles down:




Here's what it looked like from a different camera angle a second later. Wide. Open.



Myles waits, hesitates, waits a little more, then finally throws the ball. By that time, #38 has already closed the distance with Gilbert, and Gilbert has to backtrack towards an under-thrown ball. The result is an incomplete pass:




Like I said in the OP, if Myles actually identifies these wide open receivers and throws with some conviction, we finish with 50+ points and 500+ yards.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:47 am to
Has he had his eyes checked?
Posted by Not Cooper
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:48 am to
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Like I said in the OP, if Myles actually identifies these wide open receivers and throws with some conviction, we finish with 50+ points and 500+ yards.

I agree. I think a lot of the double clutching was him not trusting what he was seeing. It will be a point of emphasis this week.

And you know guys like Terrace and Gilbert will see this with him and tell him to just trust them to go make the play.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:11 am to
It's nice to see receivers had no issue getting open.

Either Brennan needs to figure it out or on to the next QB.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:24 am to
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We were getting to Costello and about the same rate as they were getting to Brennan. The difference in results is bc of timing. They got rid of the ball a split second sooner than we did.


Costello has 30 starts in Division1 and Brennan was starting his first game. Lets see how he develops in the next few weeks.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:38 am to
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Has he had his eyes checked?


Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:42 am to
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I think a lot of the double clutching was him not trusting what he was seeing


I said this all day Sat during the game. He was just scared to pull the trigger.

Think back to last year, so many of Burrows passes he simply threw the ball and trusted his receivers to go get it. And more times than naught, they did.

It was his first start and he was clearly a little gun shy about making a mistake.

Hell on that one picture he could have hit any of 3 or 4 receivers had he just planted and thrown.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:49 am to
quote:

It's nice to see receivers had no issue getting open.


But muh coaches!!! But muh scheme!!!! Those saying that don't know what they are watching & definitely don't know what they are talking about.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:56 am to
On the 3rd offensive play from scrimmage, Brennan misses Racey McMath get completely behind the defense for an easy TD against a cover zero look.







Brennan holds on to the ball, tries to run instead & fails to get the 1st down.

Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:04 pm to
That's actually the first play in the OP - except I didn't even realize McMath was that wide open on that play, because Marshall was also wide open crossing over the middle of the field trying to wave down Myles.

So he had multiple WRs in the open field...and ended up throwing it to no one.

It's just so frsutrating knowing that the routes and plays we were running resulted in wide open receivers throughout the entire game, and that our QB just didn't see any of it. It comes down to real time processing and recognition, and I'm not even sure if after 4 years that's something he can improve at this point.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:05 pm to
That’s impossible, I was told slinger and Linehan are awful and their schemes are like 2018 again.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:08 pm to
Look how much he moves on that 3rd down play. Holy shite! It was damn near perfect protection! That dude is AFRAID!
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

That's actually the first play in the OP - except I didn't even realize McMath was that wide open on that play, because Marshall was also wide open crossing over the middle of the field trying to wave down Myles.


Yep, it should have been 7-0 Tigahs right off the bat.

quote:

So he had multiple WRs in the open field...and ended up throwing it to no one.


This happened all game long. Brennan could have easily thrown for almost 600 yard & 6 TDs if he simply sees the entire field & makes the right reads. The scheme & offensive game plan put Brennan in a position to have a monster game yet he didn't.

quote:

It comes down to real time processing and recognition, and I'm not even sure if after 4 years that's something he can improve at this point.


This is definitely the most discouraging aspect of breaking down all these missed opportunities. The coaches can teach in the film room & on the practice field but they cannot make these reads for him on the field during games. When you study QBs, the in game recognition & mental awareness intangibles are something a QB is born with & I'm not sure if Brennan was born with it.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:14 pm to


Perfect protection, WRs wide open, others getting open. This is not something can be fixed with this dude. More importantly, why wait for him to figure it out? Some ppl are just practice players and that’s what Myles appears to be. I’d rather go through the growing pains with a freshmen than suffer through two years with a guy because we “owe him.”
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