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re: #8 pick in NFL draft, 11 time pro bowler, 6 time first team all-pro, NFL Hall of Famer

Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:40 pm to
Steve Ensminger hired


Thread from when Steve was originally hired back in 2010. Bunch of people questioning it then.


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steve ensminger isn't the brightest bulb on the tree .. and that is why his coaching ascension died after the clemson gig ... he was an average at best QB at LSU and couldn't latch on with the saints as the #3 QB ... the previous poster pointing out jason campbell's slow development makes a good point .. especially now that campbell is a starting QB in the NFL ..



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he can't recruit. This was the laziest hire Miles could make so he did it.




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Based on what I have seen, the Rant would do just as good or better a job than Miles has done so far. Miles has had some hiring disasters and FAILS, it's not that far of a stretch that someone else could do a better job than he has done. Those that believe that somehow Gonzales, who has no OC experience whatsoever, is going to be some miraculous panacea for the inept Gary Crowton would be laughable, if not so sad.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:42 pm to
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We have one ranter who knows more than an NFL hall of famer. There has to be more.


Give me a fricking break man. The bottom line is the only way Ensminger can prove himself is the results on the field. I don't give a shite if Willie Roaf likes him.
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:43 pm to
You're ruining your point. Dale was in the NCAA tournament consistantly and Miles won a national championship, amongst his many accolades. I agree with you!
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:43 pm to
Finally, someone who makes sense. I cant argue with that.
Good post.
Posted by smil3432
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2016
379 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:49 pm to
Lol this is pure gold
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:49 pm to
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So that means it has to work right?


Did you see the post I was replying to? No
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That's all fine and good, but it still does little to convince anyone.


Who ever said it was meant to? I said earlier in the thread that I was not trying to convince anyone of anything or relieve any of the misery on the board.

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Any negativity on this board is met with "let's just see what happens first." The same goes for this thread


Earth-shaking information here.

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If it's pointless to constantly "bash" the coaches before the season has even started, as you've said many times, then it's pointless to constantly prop them up before the season has even started


I don't remember saying anything was pointless, even the idiotic bashing based on hypothetical bullshite made up by morons.

But yeah my bad, why would anyone ever prop up an LSU team on an LSU message board. What the hell was I thinking. That's just stupid on my part. I should be propping up ULL or Northwestern State. What the hell is wrong with me. I'm sorry about this total mishap on my part.

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No one's mind is going to be changed about anything until they take the field. Period.


I would give kudos for more earth-shaking information but this is just wrong. Nobody's mind will be changed period. Some will find something to be miserable and bitch about no matter what.
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:49 pm to
You are right, but 2 different circumstances. Ensminger is believable in my opinion. With talent, he can win games.

Orgeron was a failure, but could have learned from it and we will see if he has. If nothing else, he will have a great defense and probably a very good offense. Will that mean a national championship? I dont know. But I look forward to finding out. And I fully support Coach O. You should too.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25600 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:50 pm to
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11 time pro bowler,


How many perfect games did he bowl?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Thread from when Steve was originally hired back in 2010. Bunch of people questioning it then.


The Rantards know more about football than anyone, ever !!!

Thanks for the laughs !!!
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15778 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:53 pm to
I'm somewhere in the middle on this Ensminger deal.

I could see a scenario where he never really develops Brennan and he's a guy that displays flashes but never puts it all together, and the WR's just aren't all that capable and guys like Sullivan, Anderson, and Davis never meet their potential.

I could also see a scenario where Brennan is the best QB this program has had in more than a decade, the new guys at WR like Giles, Marshall, Chase, and Jefferson make a world of difference, and the offense is actually formidable for once.

Ensminger may be a total flop, or he may be very good. I tend to believe he'll be a little better than what we've had the past few years but nobody is going to mistake this offense for something that Drew Brees and Sean Payton are leading. But the people who act as if there's no shot he does a good job, are quite frankly pessimists.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78243 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:53 pm to
2 different Alabama Defenses And if all we had to just Clemson’s OC on was last year you could argue they cough it up in big games.

That’s why you look at a body of work.

Which is why people don’t want E. His body of work indicates the Alabama game is more of what to expect than the Missouri game.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 1:56 pm
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:56 pm to
Ensminger should be great, because I read a "no name" article through a Google search that said so. It said that if Bama were to remove 8 of their starting defensive players in 2016, that the LSU offense would have scored 4.5% more points than they did. Will someone help with the math? What is a 4.5% increase of the number "0"? I want to start telling everyone that the program's saviour has arrived too.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:56 pm to
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How many perfect games did he bowl?


Would have been a lot closer to one than I have ever been. I'm a GREAT bowler after a couple beers. After 3 or 4 everything goes down hill. But it's still a good time.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Lol this is pure gold



i thought so too.

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12 pages of sandy vaginas over a TE coach.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:09 pm to
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The Rantards know more about football than anyone, ever !!! Thanks for the laughs !!!


I dont have issues with Steve, it may work. I have issues with how we got to Steve and the amount of money once again wasted by Joe Alleva.

I have a feeling if they would have went with Steve from the off, people would not be bashing it as much. The shite show with canada and the whole, i will hire the best is what has turned fans off.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
20002 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Did you see the post I was replying to? No


This one: "Might as well just hire curly. Players spoke well of him too. Maybe we should get Brett Favre's opinion." What's your point?

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Who ever said it was meant to? I said earlier in the thread that I was not trying to convince anyone of anything or relieve any of the misery on the board.


Then why post the thread?

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Earth-shaking information here.


This just doesn't mean anything.

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I don't remember saying anything was pointless


I recall you saying this many times.

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But yeah my bad, why would anyone ever prop up an LSU team on an LSU message board. What the hell was I thinking. That's just stupid on my part. I should be propping up ULL or Northwestern State. What the hell is wrong with me. I'm sorry about this total mishap on my part.


Once again, I try to have a conversation with you and you just refuse to have any of it. For all the "misery" you deflect on other posters, it sure seems like you're one of the most unhappy people around here since you can never give a civil response to anyone.

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I would give kudos for more earth-shaking information but this is just wrong.


Again, what?

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Nobody's mind will be changed period.


Yes, I said that. And?

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Some will find something to be miserable and bitch about no matter what.


You started this thread...as bait:

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Can't wait to learn how much more the Rant experts know than some suckass NFL Hall-of-Fame player.


And you complain about people bitching. You're your own worst enemy, TR.


Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88713 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Tiger Ree


I think the only reason your dumb arse isn't banned for spamming the board is the amount of clicks you generate from people destroying all of your stupid posts.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:22 pm to
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His body of work indicates the Alabama game is more of what to expect than the Missouri game.


From the Advocate:

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"In his three seasons as A&M’s coordinator, Ensminger took the Aggies from 61st in total offense to 33rd."


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A surprising visitor showed up at a Louisiana Tech bowl practice in December 1990: Georgia coach Ray Goff.

“He’s standing out there on the practice field. Can you imagine? He’s not even on the sideline. He’s right there in the mix of it,” said John Thompson, defensive coordinator on that Louisiana Tech staff. “I was like, ‘Man, that was strange.’ Everybody kind of knew he was there to interview Steve."
"Goff hired Louisiana Tech’s offensive coordinator after that visit, landing one of the nation’s most sought-after assistant coaches. Tech ranked 11th in total offense and 25th in scoring in 1990"


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"As quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator at Georgia, Ensminger developed the gem of his coaching career. Quarterback Eric Zeier led the Southeastern Conference in passing in 1992 and in total offense in 1993. The Bulldogs won 19 games in Ensminger’s first two seasons calling plays"


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“People weren’t doing it at all,” said Jackson, now retired and living in Natchitoches. “We set all kind of records.”


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"Ensminger threw for 2,770 yards and 16 touchdowns"


Which one of the bodies of work above do you think indicates it will be the Alabama game instead of the Missouri game?

This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25600 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Would have been a lot closer to one than I have ever been. I'm a GREAT bowler after a couple beers. After 3 or 4 everything goes down hill. But it's still a good time.


I'm always surprised at how well some people bowl after they have had a few beers.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:26 pm to
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Which one of the bodies of work above do you think indicates it will be the Alabama game instead of the Missouri game?



So, what you're telling me is that past coaching experience, no matter how long ago, is relevant to predict how a coach will perform today, right?
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