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re: #8 pick in NFL draft, 11 time pro bowler, 6 time first team all-pro, NFL Hall of Famer
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:01 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:01 pm to SammyTiger
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Unless someone wants to talk about Alabama and then there was nothing he could do with the offense and it’s Les’s and Cameron’s fault.
Which is it?
I'm good with you going with whichever makes you more miserable.
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind or relieve any misery. Go for it.
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:02 pm to Gray Tiger
One day that argument will convince someone, Gray. One day. I can drive a tractor. Guess I should run John Deere.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:02 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Listen to him all you want, learn from him, admire him, that's fine. But to say he's absolutely, "untouchably" correct just because he played is pretty worthless. Former players are going to say nice things about their old coaches if they had a good relationship with him. No matter how good or bad they were at their job.
So your point is to listen, respect and agree only if it coincides with your point? Excuse me, but I'd rather take his opinion over some baws that never played. Call me silly if you will.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:03 pm to Gray Tiger
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So tell me if you have never played how is it that you deem yourself qualified? I mean I'm sure that you learned all the nuances and technical ingredients of playing or coaching a sport in front of your big screen tv.
Sort of like being qualified to fly a jet by playing video pilot games? Is that how it works?
How do you know I didn't play?
What year did you play? Or does the prerequisite of D1 football experience only apply to those criticizing the staff?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:04 pm to Tiger Ree
If I was friends with Ensminger I'd say he was a great hire too.
Do you not understand that dynamic?
Do you not understand that dynamic?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:04 pm to Tiger Ree
That’s literally all you try and do untill you have nothing to say.
Explain to me Alabama.all you do is stump for O and Ensminger but you bitch out when people point out how fricking bad our game plan was.
Explain to me Alabama.all you do is stump for O and Ensminger but you bitch out when people point out how fricking bad our game plan was.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:04 pm to Nix to Twillie
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One day that argument will convince someone, Gray. One day. I can drive a tractor. Guess I should run John Deere.
My point exactly. Just don't suggest it to the usual suspects on the rant.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:04 pm to Gray Tiger
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Excuse me, but I'd rather take his opinion over some baws that never played. Call me silly if you will.
You have every right to form your own opinion. Nobody is asking you to trust their opinion over any body else's.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:07 pm to Tiger Ree
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I'm not trying to change anyone's mind or relieve any misery. Go for it.
So if anyone brings up a legitimate point about something that might still be a concern with this team, like the offense, then it's their fault for just being "miserable?"
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:07 pm to Gray Tiger
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Sort of like being qualified to fly a jet by playing video pilot games? Is that how it works?
Close. It's more like being able to tell when a plane is about to run into the side of a cliff without having any experience as a pilot.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:07 pm to A1tiger
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Now instead of some dreamed up bullshite, take a look at where LSU has ranked nationally in scoring. Cameron and Canada were both terrible due to Les/ Orgeron meddling. LSU has been held back by the lack of scoring and Ensminger is the answer?
See my post at the top of page 3 about the offensive production against the adjusted defensive quality. It is not dreamed up - it is statistical data provided by research and crunching numbers.
You can argue the point all you want but I think I'll go with the actual facts.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:09 pm to UpToPar
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We racked up a lot of yards but we were pathetic in the red zone in that game. Yards don't tell the whole story.
The guy I replied to was arguing a statement made in the article I posted. There is no story.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:09 pm to UpToPar
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How do you know I didn't play?
X-Box doesn't count.
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What year did you play? Or does the prerequisite of D1 football experience only apply to those criticizing the staff?
You have totally missed the point. Maybe because of all those hits you took when you played.
My point is that one should take the opinion of someone that has been there over some clod that hasn't.
I never ventured an opinion beyond that.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:11 pm to Gray Tiger
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So your point is to listen, respect and agree only if it coincides with your point? Excuse me, but I'd rather take his opinion over some baws that never played. Call me silly if you will.
What I'm saying is that you can listen to an interview like that and like what you hear while still not being entirely convinced by it. Just because he played doesn't make Ensminger a great coach, and just because I didn't play doesn't mean my opinion of Ensminger is wrong.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:11 pm to Tiger Ree
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See my post at the top of this page about the offensive production against the adjusted defensive quality. It is not dreamed up - it is statistical data provided by research and crunching numbers.
That stat measured our offense vs a hypothetical average offense. If you are WiFi diva toy above average vs shotty teams it will make up for you being below average vs Good defensive teams.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:11 pm to UpToPar
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Close. It's more like being able to tell when a plane is about to run into the side of a cliff without having any experience as a pilot.
And you can tell this from the back seat on the aisle in the dark because your similarly ignorant friends tell you?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:12 pm to Tiger Ree
Facts are losses due to lack of offense and pitiful national rankings related to scoring. Scoring is the only offensive stat that matters at all for the team.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:13 pm to Gray Tiger
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X-Box doesn't count.
To quote the wise Gray Tiger himself, "Do you ever have an original thought?"
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You have totally missed the point. Maybe because of all those hits you took when you played.
My point is that one should take the opinion of someone that has been there over some clod that hasn't.
I never ventured an opinion beyond that.
Ahh, well do you think Ensminger and Orgeron are qualified for the jobs they hold, and if you do, what makes you qualified to state your opinion on the matter?
If D1 playing or coaching experience were prerequisites to posting an opinion this board wouldn't exist. Instead, this silly argument is used by those defending a terrible coach from his own terrible decisions. It's entertaining if nothing else.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:14 pm to Gray Tiger
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You have totally missed the point. Maybe because of all those hits you took when you played. My point is that one should take the opinion of someone that has been there over some clod that hasn't. I never ventured an opinion beyond that.
It’s his opinion based on the time he played for Ensminger in 1990.
But since then Ensminger been fired from 2 OC jobs. So how can you justify that opinion with the fact that Ensminger hasn’t been good.
Pete Carroll’s opinion was that O would be a great hire st Ole Miss. how did that work out?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:14 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Just because he played doesn't make Ensminger a great coach,
No but it gives his opinion greater value than some dude sitting in the control room of a chem plant.
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and just because I didn't play doesn't mean my opinion of Ensminger is wrong.
On the other hand, had he bashed Ensminger, this board would have caught fire with praise of Roaf.
Right?
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