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re: 8-2... and Tiger fans still whining. The Delusion is Real!

Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:46 am to
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:46 am to
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This wasn’t a rebuild job. Perhaps O contributed to it becoming one


Recruiting coordinator doesn't choose who gets recruited.

However it happened or who is to blame. Half the offensive line personnel were processed or quit. I don't know if they just whiffed on talent or what but all that's on the roster is guards. There's not a true tackle on the team.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58762 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:48 am to
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Recruiting coordinator doesn't choose who gets recruited


They have input, and at the very least should have detailed information on who has been recruited, including weaknesses and strengths.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:54 am to
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A&M and FSU were not rebuilding jobs either.


A&M is running a completely different offense.

And to repeat. No one is complaining about 8-2.
Posted by Louisianaboy87
Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
334 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:56 am to
I do not believe any real Tiger fan is complaining about being 8-2 this year. I believe that the real frustration is centered around how the team has underachieved and yet they are still 8-2. We lost the games nearly the same way which is the other teams defensive line created havoc on our offensive line causing our offense to be stagnant and predictable. This has been the same story since 2008, with the exception of 2013 when we had Zach Mettenberger with two 1 thousand yard receivers (OBJ,Landry) and a 1 thousand yard running back.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:56 am to
If you believe LSU had a QB on the roster that we could have won 8 games with much less have a shot at 10 then you are delusional. Narcisse was terrible. MCmillan just is not SEC caliber, Brennan wasn"t ready. These are facts. So yes Joe zBurrow was a great find by the staff. Believe in fairy tales if you want but this coaching staff deserves a Hell of a lot more credit yhan you or others like you think.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:57 am to
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The Delusion is Real! by TigerFan244

The disinformation campaign is real. Citrus Bowl FTW!
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:01 am to
Well 9-1 would be better



And I guess 10-0 is unreachable ever again
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19302 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:01 am to
Saban lost 3 games every year he was here except for one.
Posted by Haughtonboy
kansas
Member since Nov 2011
1753 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:03 am to
Well, to be fair... We are whining because we were blanked by UA...and our offense is suspect...and our oline is like a damn sieve...

That’s why.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:04 am to
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I believe that the real frustration is centered around how the team has underachieved and yet they are still 8-2


If anything the team has overachieved. How anyone could look at this season and see underachievement is baffling.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:06 am to
Clemson and uga both have struggled as well

It’s bama and everybody else
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9265 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:11 am to
It’s like some of you have learned nothing from Saban while he was here.

8-2 is not in and of itself an indicator or success.

Doing things the right way yields a byproduct of wins and championships.

You start by doing things right. The win isn’t the focus. Execution is the focus. From that execution comes the win. In this regard, a poorly-executed win is not a good thing. 8-2 with a really bad offense is not good enough. Not because we don’t have enough wins, but because we have a bad offense.

Read his book.
Posted by Spotswoode
Mount Rushmore
Member since Aug 2018
1594 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:12 am to
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If anyone had told you at the start of the season that we’d be 8-2 at this point...would you have taken it? HELL YES!

First of all, "Hell Yeah" would not be my preseason reaction to 8-2. In fact, my reaction to 11-2 would have been, "OK, that's a step in the right direction." BTW, that is a step we have still not taken.

Most people would have taken an 8-2 record at this point, because they were under the mistaken impression that we played an especially tough schedule. Because of my advanced age, I knew our schedule was no tougher than it typically is - that several of these "top 10" teams were going to be average.

The other consideration that makes 8-2 worse than it appears is that one of those two was a 29-0 arse-whipping that showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are making zero progress in closing the gap against Bama.

But still, if Orgeron can beat A&M and the bowl opponent, and go 11-2, I'll be content and willing to support a one year extension of his contract.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5978 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:20 am to
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uit all the whining and enjoy this season for what it is: a rebuilding year


spin spin spin.

The head coach specifically said we'd be competing for championships this year. Now its a rebuilding year?

Add it to a long list of lies.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5903 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:20 am to
I am not believing in any fairy tale, friend. I watched an LSU team start a year 13-0 with Jarret Lee and Jordan Jefferson at QB. You think those guys were the sole, or even main reason why we were 13-0?

I didn't say they were going to do better this year with any of the other QB's who were on the roster. Conveniently, you pretend as though I did. I very clearly said that it says a lot about this staff that they couldn't develop someone better, or at least as good as Burrow, in house. Because he hasn't been all that good. He's tough, he makes some nice runs... But he's a below average QB.

Burrow wanted out of Ohio State. Our competition to get him here, if memory serves me right, was Cincinnati.

So Orgeron waved his magic wand, and pried Burrow away from that team? What was that about fairy tales?
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 7:22 am
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12174 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:21 am to
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Ed just took over
2.5 years ago
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21745 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:27 am to
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Quit all the whining and enjoy this season for what it is: a rebuilding year.


If this is a rebuilding year, will you be a man and set the goal of playoffs next year? I mean we should be rebuilt by December 2019 right?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:27 am to
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If anyone had told you at the start of the season that we’d be 8-2 at this point...would you have taken it? HELL YES!


Of course. I can have 2 thoughts at the same time, it is possible to both enjoy the current season and have concerns about the overall direction of the program
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 7:28 am
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11920 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:34 am to
It’s not the 8-2 record that has people concerned. It’s the poor play by the offense. It’s the same shite we’ve seen for the past 10 years. The offense has regressed this season. LSU is paying Les Miles millions to sit at home and he would have the same results. If you don’t see a problem with all of this, and there is more, you are delusional.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57222 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:40 am to
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It’s not really the 8-2 that’s being complained about. It’s the continued frustration of the lackluster offense that LSU seems to struggle with year after year.


We have have virtually no offense since 2008. Let that sink in for a while.
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