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re: 2 well respected posters on Tigerbait confirm that Milles and Frank Wilson

Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:07 pm to
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So, was Bebe co-DC with Monty?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Monty's bio doesn't mention he was DC at USC when O was the DC there. It says he was "Assistant Head Coach" at that time.

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Monte Kiffin, who is regarded as one of the game's best defensive minds, is in his third year at USC as the assistant head coach after joining the Trojan staff in January of 2010.

2010 USC Asst. Head Coach
2011 USC Asst. Head Coach

Official USC website

So, the answer to your inquiring mind question is 'no.'
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56564 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:09 pm to
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Monty's bio doesn't mention he was DC at USC when O was the DC there. It says he was "Assistant Head Coach" at that time.



Serious question...are you trying to argue semantics or do you think it was Orgeron's defense?

Posted by sstig
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
2905 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:13 pm to
Part of Chief's success at LSU was the time of possession run first offense. Less time on the field for the opposing offense translates to better stats. Not all of the games worked this way but many did.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16104 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:18 pm to
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Part of Chief's success at LSU was the time of possession run first offense. Less time on the field for the opposing offense translates to better stats. Not all of the games worked this way but many did.




true. We can easily do better. Clearly overrated.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464511 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:27 pm to
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Serious question...are you trying to argue semantics or do you think it was Orgeron's defense?

we can clear this up to avoid the failure of language/title

ed orgeron has never been the top manager/architect of a defense of a BCS/P5 school
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56564 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:28 pm to
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ed orgeron has never been the top manager/architect of a defense of a BCS/P5 school


I agree...I'm just not sure what Russian is arguing.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31138 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:29 pm to
pendergast for DC
coach O for DL

Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9500 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:30 pm to
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Monty's bio doesn't mention he was DC at USC when O was the DC there. It says he was "Assistant Head Coach" at that time.


Might be trying to save his rep a little, because outside of the 1 year at Tennessee, he was pretty horrible his last few years coaching in college.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44518 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:31 pm to
He was head coach at Ole Miss and interim at USC. Not a higher manager position on a team than that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464511 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:32 pm to
usually the bullshite titles are a function of contract and ability to contact the coach. you can contact a DC for a head coaching position and either lower the buyout, allow access, or some other advantage. same with a DL coach interviewing/leaving for a "DC" job
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133414 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:55 pm to
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I agree...I'm just not sure what Russian is arguing.

I've posted links to 5 (ETA correction: 6) websites, including Orgeron's personal Twitter account while he was coaching at USC, which describe him as a Defensive Coordinator.

If you or anyone else prefer to believe all of those websites, and Orgeron himself, don't know what his title was, then that's your problem, not mine.

Edit: I linked to SIX websites, not 5, that said EO was a defensive coordinator.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56564 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:58 pm to
I'll ask again, are you trying to argue semantics or do you believe that was Orgeron's defense?

Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58310 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:59 pm to
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ed orgeron has never been the top manager/architect of a defense of a BCS/P5 school


Orgeron called the defensive plays his first two seasons at Ole Miss
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133414 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:00 pm to
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ed orgeron has never been the top manager/architect of a defense of a BCS/P5 school

He was HEAD COACH at Ole Miss and also had the title of Defensive Coordinator for at least some of the seasons he was there.

Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
15028 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:02 pm to
A thread just got whacked that said Orgeron took position with a link of him and an LSU twitter account....Germans, right?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107378 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:04 pm to
Sitting around having coctails after a 5 loss season and embarrassing bowl loss...
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:04 pm to
I saw the thread but didn't get to open it. Gimme da link
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133414 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:05 pm to
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I'll ask again, are you trying to argue semantics or do you believe that was Orgeron's defense?
Turn that question back on yourself.

I've quoted 6 websites which refute the often repeated incorrect statement on this board that EO has NEVER been a DC. Do you also want to claim that the defense at Ole Miss was not Orgeron's defense when he was the Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator there? You're being willfully obtuse.
Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9500 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:06 pm to
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He was HEAD COACH at Ole Miss and also had the title of Defensive Coordinator for at least some of the seasons he was there.


Now that I know is true.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
15028 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:07 pm to
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