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re: Yam Madar LSU basketball commit?

Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:38 pm to
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Remember the “we’re not going to have anybody on the roster” concern over that unknown. Who’d that make look silly?


I suppose that made people who said it look silly...I wouldn't know, though, because I never said it. I'm willing to let it all play out. But, if LSU gave a player of this caliber $500k, it would be malfeasance.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:55 pm to
Ok
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:36 pm to
How old was matt mauck?
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:45 pm to
Chris Weinke won the Heisman at 28 yrs old.
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:23 am to
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and isn't laterally quick enough to defend most, if not, any SEC guard. He's not explosive at all, and not athletic.


What a joke….we literally trotted out Mackinnon and Thomas as our defensive backcourt. You are forgetting the physicality and experience he has defending professional basketball players for 7+ years.

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He was drafted by Boston as a project, and he never materialized. Which is why he's stuck in Israel.


So Boston took a flyer on him, even if he hasn’t come over, and somehow NBA scouts saw something in him but he can’t cut it in the SEC.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:50 am to
Just read his NBA scouting report. It’s basically the exact opposite of what that poster claims but of course he’s never watched the guy play and is just making it up like always.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:42 am to
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After eye-balling some numbers based on some reports and others are just pure speculation. It looks like we could be sitting around 20-25 million on the roster just based on the ones that have been reported to have an agreement in place or have signed with LSU.


I would be SHOCKED if many of those numbers are not grossly inflated by the media. Euroleague contracts are not huge relative to what we think of big contracts in the US. Mos (maybe all) of those guys were not making $1M (USD). So the notion that LSU would have to pay $5M, $7M, etc to lure them over to the US is foolish.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1723 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:27 am to
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What a joke….we literally trotted out Mackinnon and Thomas as our defensive backcourt. You are forgetting the physicality and experience he has defending professional basketball players for 7+ years


He’s not anywhere near as quick as Thomas or even Mackinnon. Boston took a flyer based on potential that he still hasn’t lived up to, that’s why he didn’t make it past summer league, or even in the EuroLeague.

Not sure how anyone can justify spending 5m on a guy like this, but here we are. Only 3 of the top 85 portal players remain, so this is a classic example of overpaying players out of desperation. Said this weeks ago. At least that’s what it looks like. I don’t think it’s time to panic or anything, but, If we miss out on Graves, I would be a little concerned.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 8:28 am
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:31 am to
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Just read his NBA scouting report. It’s basically the exact opposite of what that poster claims but of course he’s never watched the guy play and is just making it up like always.


Interesting. Just pulled up one. Looks very similar to what I said.

Which one did you look at?

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Weaknesses: He is a just above average athlete by NBA standards … Lacks elite explosiveness, which could be a problem at the next level … Has a thin frame, he needs to bulk up, especially in the upper body, otherwise he will be a switch target on defense … Has problems finishing through contact at the rim because of his thin frame and average leaping ability … Can’t really blow by quick opponents in the half court because of his lack of an explosive first step and strength … Has problems when the defense switches and he’s up against mobile bigs, as he often settles for contested shots because he can’t drive to the basket. .. Inconsistent shooter … Below average 3-point shooter … Not a real threat in Spot up and Catch and Shoot situations … Can’t really shoot coming off screens … Has had problems in Pick an Roll situations against switch and drop coverage, he’s too hesitant because he can’t create his own shot with consistency … If an opposing team takes away his drive and forces him to become a scorer, he can have problems, at least at this stage of his career … He can be a little wild at times on the offensive end of the floor … Has the tendency to try risky passes, or passes that just aren’t there … His competitive nature and enthusiasm can take the best of him on defense and he could either commit unnecessary fouls or get blown by, which adds pressure on his team … Bigger guards can post him up with ease, despite his fighting spirit because of his thin frame…


Interesting you also assume I haven’t watched him play. I had no idea who he was, watched a fair share of film(not highlights) and then posted my opinion. It’s amazing how you make these baseless assumptions and have to find a scouting report from God knows who to make an assessment of a player. Interested to see which scout you got your information from.

This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 8:46 am
Posted by winntiger
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:31 am to
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I would be SHOCKED if many of those numbers are not grossly inflated by the media. Euroleague contracts are not huge relative to what we think of big contracts in the US. Mos (maybe all) of those guys were not making $1M (USD). So the notion that LSU would have to pay $5M, $7M, etc to lure them over to the US is foolish.


Of course those numbers being reported aren’t accurate and put out by agents and bloggers, etc. However, you’re not gonna be able to convince the same type of people that believe every bot account posted on Facebook that they aren’t real.
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
503 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:33 am to
Completely agree, thinking the deals are structured with multiple year clauses, as well as buyouts attached. Santos made $600k last year, can’t see LSU signing him for more than 2 million a year if that. Niang is interesting but no shot he is getting $7million with $4/-5 going to him. But hey

PG Divine
Wing Bashir
Wing Niang
F Dioubate
C Dessert

F Santos
G Madar
Wing Hampton

Obviously Graves, big time other Euros
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1723 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:35 am to
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Of course those numbers being reported aren’t accurate and put out by agents and bloggers, etc. However, you’re not gonna be able to convince the same type of people that believe every bot account posted on Facebook that they aren’t real.


Ummm major media in Europe and the US are reporting the same thing, this isn’t uninformed Facebook trolls. It’s an all around bad move. Classic example of fans believing what they want to believe after plenty of information and sources are out there.

Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1723 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:50 am to
Let’s just say it is over inflated…would you pay this guy 2.5m? We already crashed and burned with a guy from the same league last year that coincidentally had similar stats. Are we really this out of touch as a fanbase?? He’s a decent player. He’s not worth a million much less 2, or god forbid 5. It reeks of desperation.
Posted by Lsuray70443
Independence
Member since Dec 2025
942 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:52 am to
He's scored 1,889 points and dished out 682 assists in his international career while shooting 47.8% from the field and 39.2% from three.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35877 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:55 am to
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Ummm major media in Europe and the US are reporting the same thing, this isn’t uninformed Facebook trolls. It’s an all around bad move. Classic example of fans believing what they want to believe after plenty of information and sources are out there.


Everyone is citing the one same source, an Israeli newspaper. There is a large use of "suggested" or "purported", etc. when talking about the dollar figures. However, that is the nature of NIL. All reports are innuendo, conjecture, and assumptions because, unlike with US pro-leagues, there are no employment contracts that can verify salaries.

Hell, the same sources don't even know what his contract is worth for his Israeli team

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The 6’3" guard is under contract next season at an estimated $1.9MM, but his deal features a buyout clause that could allow him to play for LSU, assuming he’s eligible.


Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35877 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:08 am to
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We already crashed and burned with a guy from the same league last year that coincidentally had similar stats.


"We" did not crash and burn. The former HC, who "coincidentally" was 14-46 in SEC play BEFORE the guy you are referring to joined the roster, did.

Your argument assumes the player (Zipper) was, in part, a reason for the "crash and burn". While ignoring the ONE constant in 4 years of "crashing and burning" blankly staring you in the face with arms folded.

On the one had you have a guy (Wade) who in 12 years as a D-1 HC has never had a losing season, at 5 different stops and has taken teams to the NCAA Tournament in all but 3 of his seasons as a HC (assuming he would have made it in 2020). Yet, you're opining that suddenly that same guy has totally forgotten how to construct a winning roster...while simultaneously suggesting a coach, who had the worst 4 year stint in the SEC and in the last 50 years of LSU basketball, was only bad because of players like Ron Zipper.

In short, put this exact same player on McMahon's team and LSU will lose, a lot. That's because the problem was not the player(s) (40+ of them cycled through program)...it was the awful head. Now, put this same guy on Wade's team and all data/past history says LSU will win with him. That's because Wade has won every year of his career.
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
503 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:36 am to
The last two teams CMM put forth I argue you could have gotten a team for $850k and been just as competitive.

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Are we really this out of touch as a fanbase?? He’s a decent player. He’s not worth a million much less 2, or god forbid 5.


Again, there is no salary cap, this is not affecting LSUs athletic budget, if someone is willing to put up the money, then it doesn’t matter, it’s simply on Wade and staff to coach the team. I would much rather go this route then what was left.
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
503 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:41 am to
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so this is a classic example of overpaying players out of desperation.


Wow, what do you think Wade’s record in SEC play will be? Over/Under 3 wins
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
71803 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:32 am to
You’re dealing with someone who has spun everything into a false catastrophe since Wade was hired. He wants him to fail so you’re never going to get a real take or discussion with the dude. I’m sure he’s formulating his plan for attacking the RJ Luis news right now.
Posted by chadr07
Rapides Parish
Member since Jan 2015
14596 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:13 pm to
You are about a fricking idiot. Just tell us you have no clue what you are talking about. Wade specifically said that most of the players in the portal were not good enough to take LSU where he wanted them to. That is the sole reason he took the international route. He’s not just getting bums you fricking imbecile.
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