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re: wow, I guess you baws were right about recruiting rankings and LSU. Our 5* is now a 4*

Posted on 7/18/22 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 2:47 pm to
This shite is why no one respects 24/7 now. They manipulate these “rankings” for who they want. All that matters is that we find kids who ball out on the field and not worry about their “ranking.”



Perfect example is Manning in this cycle
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2604 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 2:48 pm to
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I am sure someone will be here soon to say "he'd be a 5* if he had committed to Bama"


No, he'd be a 6 star.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2038 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

The 247 bias is FOR bama and not necessarily against LSU



So is Saban a phenomenal coach or not because all i hear is he wins because of his all star lineup of 5 stars but then people say their players are bumped solely because they are Bama. If that's the case then those players wouldn't really be that good. Interesting
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21305 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 2:54 pm to
This happens every time.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:18 pm to
OT a bit but anyone think Gabe Brooks looks like a complete wannabe NFL scout in his profile pic?

Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
5973 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:19 pm to
Bama Bump and LSU DUMP
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:19 pm to
LOL at you guys. Go back and read then realize, some of you actually pay these sites for info that means ZERO.if JB played with Arch, he'd be a 17*.

Think about it, yall are bitching about a site that has Arch as the best player in America, almost ever!
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 7:30 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46747 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:36 pm to
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247 has it out for LSU and the data proves it.

Four examples doesn't prove it.
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1953 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:53 pm to
This is all media driven. They elevate uncommitted players to make a buck. I remember back in the day, probably the 80s, when a recruiting site posted about a 6-6 305 DT from some school either in north La. or Mississippi. So that kid kept being talked about by the mags in that day to drive up sales... There was no kid. Scouts even showed up at his school to scout him. He was a unicorn. He didn't exist... These sites just like any newspaper, is out to make $.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38013 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 4:15 pm to
Not sure why someone downvoted you. Someone other than 247 dropped him so his composite dropped. 247 did not drop him.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30923 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:25 pm to
Wasn’t he a 5 on rivals and 4 everywhere else when he committed? Or was that just 247composite?

We will have guys rise up the rankings too. I mean, think about it, do you really think a recruiting site would have it out for a university? Maybe it happened before because the they don’t trust prior coaches evaluations, but I doubt it.

Bama bump is very possible though, especially if it’s a low 4 star or 3 star. Saban gets the benefit of the doubt that when he offers tea player then they must be good . It probably causes the recruiting sites to re-evaluate the player and then decide to bump him up
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
2296 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:36 pm to
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Perfect example is Manning in this cycle


He's the number one recruit on every service
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38013 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

I mean, think about it, do you really think a recruiting site would have it out for a university? Maybe it happened before because the they don’t trust prior coaches evaluations, but I doubt it.

Bama bump is very possible though, especially if it’s a low 4 star or 3 star. Saban gets the benefit of the doubt that when he offers tea player then they must be good . It probably causes the recruiting sites to re-evaluate the player and then decide to bump him up




I think there is something to the Bama bump but I'm not sure it is anything more than the people on the site being influenced by how well Saban and company identify talent. It still pisses me off though
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
1202 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:12 pm to
It's because he picked the Good Guys and not Bama. If it were Bama he'd be a 6 *
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9266 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

All that matters is that we find kids who ball out on the field and not worry about their “ranking.”


This is correct for the most part. The fact is that there isn’t much difference in a player who is ranked 50th or 1st. 51st or 100. What is most important is that you recruit the players who you see fit your teams needs and team dynamic. You also want player you feel might grow and progress into a man and who has the same type of talent the competition does.

If LSU signs a DL or LB or OL who is just as talented as any other top teams prospects but the player we signed might be more mature, humble and knows it takes more work than the Bama player to get where he wants or needs to be then he might have the edge in the 1 vs 1 battles on game day.

This can be taught to them while here or it can just be who they are and our coaches can refine that for them. If we have more players like that than Bama does on game day and our coaches are all equally good then we beat them. It’s really that simple. A lot of that is skill and some is luck. Bama wins not because they have more 5*s but they have more of all of it combined and Saban makes sure of that.

Here’s the good news for LSU. We now have a HC coach who I believe is just as good as Saban is when it comes to combining all the variables needed to beat the competition and quickly recognize when/where the shortcomings might be then know how to fix those, if he comes up short from time to time. All we’ll need then is a little luck to win it all.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25467 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:00 am to
I remember Derrius Guice's recruitment. He was a 5 star then magically lowered to a 4 star. He then decommitted from LSU before the Army all American game.

I think a reporter asked him why he decommitted and he said he really wanted that 5th star.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
21808 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:27 am to
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Wasn’t he a 5 on rivals and 4 everywhere else when he committed? Or was that just 247composite?

No.

Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:58 am to
quote:

247 has it out for LSU and the data proves it.


Agree
Posted by joechristoppher77
Ruston
Member since Apr 2006
5366 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 8:20 am to
It's more about getting money from other fan bases, it's been admitted before and a reason ND was so inflated in the past. It's really money driven so I stopped paying for that crap years ago...look who spends the most on their sites and follow the bumps
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12539 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:58 am to
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247


shite website. Why anyone would pay for that is beyond me.
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