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re: Who was the biggest recruiting miss in LSU history?
Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:51 pm to 2003tigerfan
Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:51 pm to 2003tigerfan
I’m going to throw out maybe LSU’s biggest miss and no one has named him yet. Not a miss like all of the others, but Zach Lee was supposed to be our savior. Was in a dorm taking summer classes and poof, was gone.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:00 pm to Tiger4life306
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At the moment in time he was being recruited, Dylan Moses was up there.
Little traitor was on LSU’s campus at U-high and recruited since he was in grade school…
Fortunately, he turned out to not be all-galaxy like he was touted up to be
He decommited when we fired Les. That happens when a coach leaves. If Les didn't get fired, Moses probably comes to LSU. But then we wouldn't have the best season in college football history.
I remember one certain recruit that had people steamed. Brock Berlin. He was a great high school QB. I watched a lot of his games at evangel. But what we didn't know was he was a system QB. Didn't do shite in college. But he beat a Andrew Whitworth led team when West Monroe was at their peak. That was a amazing game.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:11 pm to 2003tigerfan
Missing out on Raynoch Thompson always bothered me
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:58 pm to Captain Crown
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I enjoyed covering high school recruiting but brother it is dead in the water now
following LSU's HS recruiting is what led me to this site, when Dandy Don got stale...
but yeah HS recruiting is, and has been for a while now, dead as a doornail
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:04 pm to 2003tigerfan
The one that completely floored me was Billy Cannon Jr. I mean a legacy of LSU's only Heisman winner up til then and we couldn't get him. My jaw dropped.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:44 pm to AlwysATgr
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Paul Ott Carruth hurt because we needed RBs
I actually had no ides he was even a football player…..he had a hunting/fishing talk show in central Mississippi until he passed away several years back. I am shocked that I didn’t know this!
Posted on 1/5/26 at 10:11 pm to thumperpait
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I remember one certain recruit that had people steamed. Brock Berlin
We had Josh Booty and Rohan Davey.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:27 pm to Havoc
Neil Smith
Not sure about his recruitment by LSU vs Nebraska but that was a big one that got away from the boot.
Brian Mitchell
Again, not sure about his recruitment but he was a great versatile athlete years before Kevin Faulk came along.
Not sure about his recruitment by LSU vs Nebraska but that was a big one that got away from the boot.
Brian Mitchell
Again, not sure about his recruitment but he was a great versatile athlete years before Kevin Faulk came along.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:28 pm to 2003tigerfan
Dak Prescott
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:28 am to DeathByTossDive225
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Maybe more an evaluation Miss but still
Reveal Miss for sure. But everyone did b
Posted on 1/6/26 at 4:32 am to clamdip
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How the hell is that not a miss? That's the definition of a miss. Us losing out on a battle for a stud like Warrick Dunn isn't a miss. That's a tried and lost out to FSU. A big recruiting miss is someone you didn't get because you mis-evaluated.
OP was….
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I’m talking strictly high school recruiting …and kids that we had a legitimate shot at
Which I read as a player we were battling for and missed. We didn’t battle for Faulk.
It was an evaluation miss and everyone did it.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:09 am to 2003tigerfan
Landon Collins-went to a bitter rival, he was a difference maker for them, and in the coming years plays at our safety position directly impacted the game between us and bama.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:58 am to Burt Reynolds
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Dak Prescott
Didn’t Les want him to play TE?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:09 am to 2003tigerfan
Colt McCoy was coming until Les got Perriloux to come. From what I remember Saban didn’t want him and had McCoy
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:34 am to joe8 7
Ike Hilliard
Warrick Dunn
Travis Minor
Major Applewhite
Ed Reed
Raynoch Thompson
Reggie Wayne
Anthony Thomas (we had a 3 headed monster)
Benny Gilbeaux
Marshall Faulk
Neil Smith
Kordell Stewart
Robert Hammond
Terrell Bierra
Shane Matthews
Brock Berlin
Anthony Lucas
The Mannings (pipe dream)
Eric Jefferson (Illinois to prison)
Adam McConathy
Dylan Moses
Cam Robinson
Hootie Jones
Speedy Noil
Landon Collins (one of Saban’s greatest pulls/cheats)
Patrick Surtain
Joe McKnight (thanks, Ed O)
Talman Gardner
Robert Lane
Amik Robertson
Travis Minor
Jonathan Wade
Dak
Bennie Gilbeaux
Thomas Pittman
Walter Young jr
Corey Chavus
Warrick Dunn
Travis Minor
Major Applewhite
Ed Reed
Raynoch Thompson
Reggie Wayne
Anthony Thomas (we had a 3 headed monster)
Benny Gilbeaux
Marshall Faulk
Neil Smith
Kordell Stewart
Robert Hammond
Terrell Bierra
Shane Matthews
Brock Berlin
Anthony Lucas
The Mannings (pipe dream)
Eric Jefferson (Illinois to prison)
Adam McConathy
Dylan Moses
Cam Robinson
Hootie Jones
Speedy Noil
Landon Collins (one of Saban’s greatest pulls/cheats)
Patrick Surtain
Joe McKnight (thanks, Ed O)
Talman Gardner
Robert Lane
Amik Robertson
Travis Minor
Jonathan Wade
Dak
Bennie Gilbeaux
Thomas Pittman
Walter Young jr
Corey Chavus
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:10 am to joe8 7
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Didn’t Les want him to play TE?
Yes.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:23 am to Tigershine
It’s McKnight and Collins, given the hype and visibility of the two announcements and the teams we were competing against at the time.
But the one that I always go to when this comes up is Cordarelle Patterson. Yea he was a one and done player, but that’s why it’s easier to see how he would have actually impacted the program.
He was a finished product and made an immediate impact in the SEC at WR and returner, and given how close that 2012 team came to getting back to the SEC/NCG I don’t think there is a more quantifiable loss from missing on a specific recruit.
That 2012 team went 10-2 with only an 8 point loss at BCS Florida when we couldn’t move the ball to save our lives, and of course the 4 point loss to eventual champ Alabama.
Yes, we already had Odell and Jarvis at WR, but they were far from what we remember in 2013 for most of that season. Jarvis in particular didn’t make an impact until the Alabama game and didn’t even have a target in the Florida game, when we were held to 6 points.
And given the loss of Mathieu before the season having Patterson as a returner would have made up a huge deficit in production that he gave us in 2011. The guy became a 1st round draft pick after his one year at Tennessee based on his ability as a returner man and is a future hall of famer as probably the best kick returner in history.
Hell, sign CP and keep TM on the field and that 2012 team is better than 2011.
Regardless, there is very little doubt that he would have made a difference in at least one if not both of those games and LSU probably breaks up the Alabama momentum.
That puts him above a guy like Dez Bryant, that while he was a better player, we won the title in 07 anyway, and Dez likely doesn’t make enough of a difference in 08 or 09 to change those seasons significantly.
But the one that I always go to when this comes up is Cordarelle Patterson. Yea he was a one and done player, but that’s why it’s easier to see how he would have actually impacted the program.
He was a finished product and made an immediate impact in the SEC at WR and returner, and given how close that 2012 team came to getting back to the SEC/NCG I don’t think there is a more quantifiable loss from missing on a specific recruit.
That 2012 team went 10-2 with only an 8 point loss at BCS Florida when we couldn’t move the ball to save our lives, and of course the 4 point loss to eventual champ Alabama.
Yes, we already had Odell and Jarvis at WR, but they were far from what we remember in 2013 for most of that season. Jarvis in particular didn’t make an impact until the Alabama game and didn’t even have a target in the Florida game, when we were held to 6 points.
And given the loss of Mathieu before the season having Patterson as a returner would have made up a huge deficit in production that he gave us in 2011. The guy became a 1st round draft pick after his one year at Tennessee based on his ability as a returner man and is a future hall of famer as probably the best kick returner in history.
Hell, sign CP and keep TM on the field and that 2012 team is better than 2011.
Regardless, there is very little doubt that he would have made a difference in at least one if not both of those games and LSU probably breaks up the Alabama momentum.
That puts him above a guy like Dez Bryant, that while he was a better player, we won the title in 07 anyway, and Dez likely doesn’t make enough of a difference in 08 or 09 to change those seasons significantly.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:26 am to 2003tigerfan
Landon Collins was a tough one. I was extremely bummed when we lost Marvin Wilson to Florida state.
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