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re: To recruits considering Texas A&M, Fisher’s record essentially the same as Kevin Sumlin’s

Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37249 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:05 pm to
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And at least Sumlin was a fun drunk


Jive Kevin Sumlin is a good follow on Twitter.
Posted by LSU4lyfe
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2003
7814 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:30 pm to
Aggies need to keep Jimbo because with their money, if they had a real coach, it wouldn’t be good
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6546 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:07 pm to
But muh highest ever rated recruiting class…
Posted by MurphyGator
Member since Jul 2021
965 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:37 pm to
Johnson can't be any worse than King.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118989 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:10 pm to
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Aggies need to keep Jimbo because with their money, if they had a real coach, it wouldn’t be good


This.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1793 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:15 pm to


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It seems almost like the HS football coaches run that state. ... FTR I think this has a lot to do with how Mack Brown lost traction at UT.



I have actually heard a super interesting theory on Mack Brown's downfall, and it sort of plays into your point about the power some TX HS coaches have. Basically the gist of it was that he was a victim of his own success, and a victim of the (good) relationship he had with the TX HS coaches. He was in a position to basically pick and choose whichever TX recruits he wanted. So he would come in at the beginning of the cycle, and load up all the kids who were at the top at that point in the cycle--and then he'd be done. As a result, he started consistently miss every single late bloomer and getting stuck with guys who didn't develop much. He either felt he couldn't or didn't want to risk ruining those relationships he'd built with the important HS coaches, so he never waited around to continue evaluating as the cycle progressed.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:24 pm to
Obviously faggies are racist
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
2291 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:05 am to
TAM just sucks all the way around and so does Jimbo Fishbate. I thanks the LSU Gods, that we did not hire this idiot. So glad we have BK, we are lucky to have him.
Beat State !
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1819 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:04 am to
Take away Johnny Manzeil and Sumlin would have had a very tough time of it.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30595 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:24 am to
Consider this, Sumlin took over a team the had gone 7-6 (4-5 Big 12) and in his first year in the SEC went 11-2(6-2) losing only to LSU and Florida (both ranked) and handing ALabama it's only loss that year. That was his best season.

Jimbo took over for a Sumlin team that had gone 7-6(4-4) and promptly went 9-4(5-3) by virtue (IMO) of some pretty badly blown calls in the LSU game. And that has been his best non-covid season. That Covid season really helped Jimbo's numbers out.

Sumlin

2012 11–2 6–2
2013 9–4 4–4
2014 8–5 3–5
2015 8–5 4–4
2016 8–5 4–4
2017 7–5 4–4

Overall 51–26 25–23

Jimbo

2018 9–4 5–3
2019 8–5 4–4
2020 9–1 8–1
2021 8–4 4–4
2022 1–1 0–0

Overall 35–15 21–12
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1034 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:35 am to
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I dont know why everyone acts like a team full of true freshmen, 5 stars or not is going to win a championship

Go look at his previous 3 classes. Number 1,3, and 5. He has plenty of talent stacked up.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11742 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:41 am to
Jimbo had success b/c he was in the ACC when they were the lone wolf. No different than Clemson during their run. Watch how the ACC will shift over next 2-3 years with them.
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