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The NCAA needs to address the 25 signing limit.

Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:47 am
Posted by TigerCrude
Member since Oct 2019
1878 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:47 am
This limit should really only be for high school prospects.

With all the new transfer rules, if opt outs become a thing, and kids leaving early for the draft; teams need to be able to pull transfers and judo guys with out a hit to the 25. If you have room under the 85 scholly umbrella you should be able to use it to help replenish the losses. Ye so understand good coaches do better jobs than others at retaining players and roster management. But maybe have it where transfers and juco have their own limit either together or separate. Like 3-5 every year. Or maybe the limit should be based on upper class man left on your team after every year. Do something other wise you will end up with more years like this where the product on the field is not as good as it should be. When team rosters get decimated like LSU’s did and they produce the season they did this year it looks bad overall. And you as a whole lose money.

Also expanding the playoffs would help with less opt outs.

That’s my recruiting rant.
Posted by Lptigerfan
Jeff Davis Parish
Member since May 2015
591 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:49 am to
I like it the way it is. Otherwise, it's just going to be the rich getting richer.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37586 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:50 am to
No

College Football already has tons of rules that benefit the elite schools

If anything, the scholarship limit needs to be LOWERED to spread the talent throughout.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
2851 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:51 am to
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I like it the way it is. Otherwise, it's just going to be the rich getting richer.


Up until the last few years players weren’t bailing in fall camp in droves weeks before the season because they lost the starting job. You need to be able to bring in a replacement in these cases, and with these transfers happening so far after signing day currently you have to leave signing spots open if you want to bring a guy in months later even if you have 5 open schollys.

That doesn’t even include the risk you take that a guy you sign doesn’t qualify.

I’d be open to a transfer count being separate if the high school count as a starter rule.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 8:53 am
Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1660 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:52 am to
FBS,FCS, div ii , div iii, naia... it’s plenty of places for kids to play football other than LSU
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26808 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:54 am to
Yea, they need to reduce it and reduce the 85.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:55 am to
high school and juco should be part of 25

there should be a separate cap for transfers, which would likely require some sort of limit on cut scholarship players as well

can't just sign 20 transfers and cut 18 kids
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42661 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:55 am to
Yeah if anything I can see the day the NCAA goes the baseball route - spread the talent out more.
25 is more than enough to meet the 85 man rosters and with a 85 man roster so many of those kids never see the field.
If anything to lower costs for university athletic departments, NFL doesn't have huge rosters and they manage fine.
Obviously you don't want to take away opportunities from kids but they did exactly that with baseball.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:56 am to
quote:

If anything, the scholarship limit needs to be LOWERED to spread the talent throughout.

how about this

20 HS/Juco recruits

10 transfers
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51680 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:57 am to
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teams need to be able to pull transfers and judo guys with out a hit to the 25

Posted by Chanman8
Member since Sep 2020
118 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:59 am to
you would still have an 85 cap so it would help teams get back to that number quicker, but not allow multiple 30 signee classes like the old Nebraska days of the 70s when they had 100+ scholarship players.
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
585 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:59 am to
If you lower the number of scholarships, there will be more transfers. You can take that to the bank. Just wait until coaches like Kiffin or Saban start getting high 3 star and low 4 star athletes to go to USM or UAB for a year of free development and weight training, only to transfer to the big school when a spot opens up the next off season.
Posted by burasjr123
amite,la.
Member since Nov 2009
308 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:00 am to
Every college should sign up to 28 with 2 gray shirts
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37586 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:01 am to
Slow, check out my MSB thread. Would love your input
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
217 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:01 am to
Baseball doesn't have the amount of injury as football, you need those extra bodies, as far as NFL that's all about saving money.
Posted by Chanman8
Member since Sep 2020
118 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:01 am to
NFL teams have 90 guys. 53 for gamedays, but when guys get put on IR they can call up guys from the practice squad. College programs don't have that option.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37586 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:06 am to
quote:

how about this

20 HS/Juco recruits

10 transfers


I’m cool with this. I don’t want the 85 limit to go away. Bad optics there
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1587 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Baseball doesn't have the amount of injury as football, you need those extra bodies, as far as NFL that's all about saving money.




Up until about 10-15 years ago baseball used to have essentially free agency which is where football is moving. I’m not sure why they changed the rules but I think coaches were tired of developing players then having them transferring to greener pastures.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:28 am to
quote:

No

College Football already has tons of rules that benefit the elite schools

If anything, the scholarship limit needs to be LOWERED to spread the talent throughout.



85 is perfect. All your doing is allowing programs that are not P5 type schools to get better players. Why should LSU and SEC schools try to help for example, ULM, LA Tech, Tulane and ULL. They shouldn't.

If anything, keep the 25 signing limit from HS/JUCO but if your short on the 85 with the Graduate transfer rule, have guys like Burrow in 2018, Liam and Jabril this year count against the 85 of course, but not the 25.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37586 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:28 am to
quote:

85 is perfect. All your doing is allowing programs that are not P5 type schools to get better players. Why should LSU and SEC schools try to help for example, ULM, LA Tech, Tulane and ULL. They shouldn't.


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