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re: So BK left ND partially because he wasn’t getting enough talent
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:36 pm to TN Tygah
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:36 pm to TN Tygah
A little help here:
LSU Adds Commitment From No. 1 IOL in America Tyler Miller
Miller adds to the Bayou Bengals' No. 1 recruiting class in the 2025 cycle, Tigers secure the coveted lineman.
ZACK NAGY
UPDATED:
MAR 17, 2024 2:28 PM EDT
LSU Tigers
LSU TIGERS
Brian Kelly and the LSU football staff continue stockpiling talent for the long haul after reeling in a commitment from the No. 1 interior offensive lineman in America: Tyler Miller.
The 6-foot-6, 320-pounder provides offensive line coach Brad Davis with another coveted prospect to add to his position group.
Miller, a Mississippi native, is rated as a consensus four-star recruit across all platforms and is the 71st ranked prospect per On3.
He chose the Tigers over a slew of programs including Ole Miss, Florida and Mississippi State, among others.
Now, after visiting Baton Rouge last weekend, Miller has shutdown his recruitment and revealed his pledge to Kelly and Co. as he begins spring football.
The trip to The Boot paved the way for Miller to commit to the Tigers and join their No. 1 recruiting class in the country.
On3's evaluation of Miller: “Tyler Miller has been in the top 100 for On3 for several months. A guy who could play multiple positions on the offensive line. Got to see him in person at the Atlanta Under Armour camp, he is really well-built at 6-foot-5, 315 pounds. Has plus length with 34-plus inch arms. A violent, physical run-blocker. Going to need to continue to develop in pass protection, and I think his skillset right now projects most seamlessly on the interior, but he’s a good athlete, fluid mover and a guy who, when you look at the pure physical ability and his ready-made size, projects well.”
LSU now has four prospects rated No. 1 at their position committed in the 2025 class.
- Bryce Underwood: No. 1 QB
- Harlem Berry: No. 1 RB
- Dakorien Moore: No. 1 WR
- Tyler Miller: No. 1 IOL
Brian Kelly and Co. have been adamant about locking down Louisiana and building a wall around the state when it comes to The Boot's best players.
Now, the Tigers have secured commitments from six of the Top 10 prospects with one more trending their way.
LSU Adds Commitment From No. 1 IOL in America Tyler Miller
Miller adds to the Bayou Bengals' No. 1 recruiting class in the 2025 cycle, Tigers secure the coveted lineman.
ZACK NAGY
UPDATED:
MAR 17, 2024 2:28 PM EDT
LSU Tigers
LSU TIGERS
Brian Kelly and the LSU football staff continue stockpiling talent for the long haul after reeling in a commitment from the No. 1 interior offensive lineman in America: Tyler Miller.
The 6-foot-6, 320-pounder provides offensive line coach Brad Davis with another coveted prospect to add to his position group.
Miller, a Mississippi native, is rated as a consensus four-star recruit across all platforms and is the 71st ranked prospect per On3.
He chose the Tigers over a slew of programs including Ole Miss, Florida and Mississippi State, among others.
Now, after visiting Baton Rouge last weekend, Miller has shutdown his recruitment and revealed his pledge to Kelly and Co. as he begins spring football.
The trip to The Boot paved the way for Miller to commit to the Tigers and join their No. 1 recruiting class in the country.
On3's evaluation of Miller: “Tyler Miller has been in the top 100 for On3 for several months. A guy who could play multiple positions on the offensive line. Got to see him in person at the Atlanta Under Armour camp, he is really well-built at 6-foot-5, 315 pounds. Has plus length with 34-plus inch arms. A violent, physical run-blocker. Going to need to continue to develop in pass protection, and I think his skillset right now projects most seamlessly on the interior, but he’s a good athlete, fluid mover and a guy who, when you look at the pure physical ability and his ready-made size, projects well.”
LSU now has four prospects rated No. 1 at their position committed in the 2025 class.
- Bryce Underwood: No. 1 QB
- Harlem Berry: No. 1 RB
- Dakorien Moore: No. 1 WR
- Tyler Miller: No. 1 IOL
Brian Kelly and Co. have been adamant about locking down Louisiana and building a wall around the state when it comes to The Boot's best players.
Now, the Tigers have secured commitments from six of the Top 10 prospects with one more trending their way.
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:50 am to TN Tygah
Take this crap over to tRant where there are more low IQ posters to help you fit in better.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:47 am to TN Tygah
Here's the facts using on3 industry rankings:
2023 Recruiting Class (BK's first at LSU)
LSU #5
ND #10
2024 Recruiting Class (BK's second at LSU)
LSU #7
ND #11
2025 Recruiting Class...and this one is far from over
LSU #1
ND #5
And for 2025 you'll notice ND is only up there due to volume compared to the others around them right now. They have EIGHT 3-stars already in that class. Nobody else around them has more than 1 3-star. Their class this cycle is not off to a good start. Ours is going to be right up there fighting for #1 and stay in Top 3 range.
Admittedly, the first 2 BK classes here werent outstanding, but they were solid LSU classes, and ranked higher than both classes ND was able to pull those years under Freeman. 1 thing you'll notice a nice difference in either way, in the 2023-2025 classes so far, ND has ZERO 5-star players in any of those classes. BK has been able to reel in 6 in that same frame. ND hasnt landed an on3 industry 5-star in over a decade. Imagine that EVER flying at LSU. Now obviously BK was the coach there for most of that, but what has Freeman done to remedy that? Zero in 2023, zero in 2024 and zero out of 18 commits in 2025 thus far.
ND would KILL to get 6 5-star players in a 3 year consecutive span in recruiting. They just dont attract that kind of talent there on even close to a consistent occasion. There are players an ND coach has to overlook even if they are super talented for a lot of reasons a coach at LSU doesnt have to overlook the same said player, which eliminates some top talent for them to recruit right off the bat. It's reasons like this why BK left ND for LSU. He CAN recruit better talent here than he (or freeman can) at ND. Especially top tier talent.
2023 Recruiting Class (BK's first at LSU)
LSU #5
ND #10
2024 Recruiting Class (BK's second at LSU)
LSU #7
ND #11
2025 Recruiting Class...and this one is far from over
LSU #1
ND #5
And for 2025 you'll notice ND is only up there due to volume compared to the others around them right now. They have EIGHT 3-stars already in that class. Nobody else around them has more than 1 3-star. Their class this cycle is not off to a good start. Ours is going to be right up there fighting for #1 and stay in Top 3 range.
Admittedly, the first 2 BK classes here werent outstanding, but they were solid LSU classes, and ranked higher than both classes ND was able to pull those years under Freeman. 1 thing you'll notice a nice difference in either way, in the 2023-2025 classes so far, ND has ZERO 5-star players in any of those classes. BK has been able to reel in 6 in that same frame. ND hasnt landed an on3 industry 5-star in over a decade. Imagine that EVER flying at LSU. Now obviously BK was the coach there for most of that, but what has Freeman done to remedy that? Zero in 2023, zero in 2024 and zero out of 18 commits in 2025 thus far.
ND would KILL to get 6 5-star players in a 3 year consecutive span in recruiting. They just dont attract that kind of talent there on even close to a consistent occasion. There are players an ND coach has to overlook even if they are super talented for a lot of reasons a coach at LSU doesnt have to overlook the same said player, which eliminates some top talent for them to recruit right off the bat. It's reasons like this why BK left ND for LSU. He CAN recruit better talent here than he (or freeman can) at ND. Especially top tier talent.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 8:17 am
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:51 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
Take this crap over to tRant where there are more low IQ posters to help you fit in better.
Cool post. LSU is getting awesome players. I’m happy about it, and also happy that BK is here and we didn’t get stuck with Freeze or Napier. But ND is also getting great players, and I was told BK couldn’t do that at ND. There is no “angle” to my post, no agenda, this was pretty straight forward: I was stunned when I saw how well ND was recruiting and wanted to know why.
I do not know why this pissed so many people off but at least I have a good idea of what pisses off other fans from now on. I don’t know what my IQ is, but I do know the average IQ is higher than the number of brain cells in your head.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:00 am to TN Tygah
quote:
But ND is also getting great players, and I was told BK couldn’t do that at ND.
Their classes since he left are an avg of 2 spots higher than when he was there. Their avg player rating is about the same
The positions they recruit well and the positions they struggle recruiting are the same
You have no fricking clue what you are talking about and should leave this board
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:31 am to TN Tygah
quote:
But ND is also getting great players, and I was told BK couldn’t do that at ND.
quote:
In the 2023-2025 classes so far, ND has ZERO 5-star players in any of those classes. BK has been able to reel in 6 in that same frame here. ND hasnt landed an on3 industry 5-star in over a decade. Imagine that EVER flying at LSU. Now obviously BK was the coach there for most of that, but what has Freeman done to remedy that? Zero in 2023, zero in 2024 and zero out of 18 commits in 2025 thus far.
ND would KILL to get 6 5-star players in a 3 year consecutive span in recruiting. They just dont attract that kind of talent there on even close to a consistent occasion. There are players an ND coach has to overlook even if they are super talented for a lot of reasons a coach at LSU doesnt have to overlook the same said player, which eliminates some top talent for them to recruit right off the bat. It's reasons like this why BK left ND for LSU. He CAN recruit better talent here than he (or freeman can) at ND. Especially top tier talent.
You're welcome. Stop trying to make something different out of reality. BK has recruited better classes here than Freeman at ND and has attracted more top end talent. Due to reasons above.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:08 am to TN Tygah
This post still makes me laugh.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:31 pm to Miketheseventh
quote:
The only reason they are still relevant is because of the weak schedule they play every year
That's a pet peeve of mine, that Notre Dame plays a weak schedule. They roughly play the same number of top end teams as any school in a major conference. They just get dinged because they play a lot of service academies, never mind that teams in power conferences play Vandy/Northwestern/Wake Forest/Cal/Colorado along with a couple of cupcake non-conference games.
Since 2020, in the regular season they've played
Florida State, twice
USC, four times
Ohio State, twice
Clemson, three times
North Carolina, three times
Wisconsin
Over the next four years they will play
Texas A&M, twice
Florida State, twice
USC, three times
Wisconsin
North Carolina, twice
Miami
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:09 am to TN Tygah
This has probably been said but if not, it wasn't just about getting players. Facilities and being aligned within the department with administrators, etc had a lot to do with it too.
Are you sure you are an LSU fan? A true fan would know these things.
Have DV 480.
Are you sure you are an LSU fan? A true fan would know these things.
Have DV 480.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:47 am to TN Tygah
At ND BK had to get on a plane and convinced kids to go to South Bend. At LSU, he can get in his car and drive 30 minutes down the road for a 5* player.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:11 pm to TN Tygah
quote:
I was told BK couldn’t do that at ND.
He felt he couldn't get the quality of players on campus at ND to compete on an even playing field against other top teams. Please understand that internet rankings =/= real life. But even if you think they do then Notre Dame player rankings average does not come close to LSU's in any ranking service.
In Brian Kelly's last recruiting class (2021) at Notre Dame the recruits' average distance from campus was 832.6 miles.
Other years:
2020: 1088.5 mi.
2019: 785.2 mi.
2018: 750.1 mi.
2017: 902.3 mi.
That trend continues under Freeman:
2022: 647.4 mi.
2023: 645.4 mi.
2024: 624.5 mi.
2025: 795.9 mi
Since Kelly has been at LSU:
2022: 231.7 mi
2023: 451.3 mi
2024: 189.3 mi.
2025: 209.2 mi. (so far)
This also has the added bonus (at least in theory) that local players are less likely to enter the transfer portal to play further away from home. With the number of Louisiana players transferring back home being further evidence.
Recruiting is a whole lot different in Louisiana than Indiana.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:57 am to TN Tygah
This is a good question but you are confronting a conflated LSU superiority (esp to ND which is particularly hated for idk why) which hurts egos and therefore equals downvotes. Notre Dame can very clearly recruit talent and some years even better LSU, even tho tigers still have a recruiting edge in general
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:25 am to TN Tygah
quote:bro stop lying. You had an obvious agenda. On top of that agenda, you're dumb as hell to boot as ND has not recruited better since Kelly left. Three of Kelly's last 5 classes BEFORE FREEMAN EVEN COACHED DEFENSE AT NOTRE DAME, were top 10 classes. The class Kelly and Freeman help build finished 7th. After Kelly, Freeman had the 12th ranked class and then the 9th ranked class. All of this is according to 247 composite. Just to give you another service.
Cool post. LSU is getting awesome players. I’m happy about it, and also happy that BK is here and we didn’t get stuck with Freeze or Napier. But ND is also getting great players, and I was told BK couldn’t do that at ND. There is no “angle” to my post, no agenda, this was pretty straight forward: I was stunned when I saw how well ND was recruiting and wanted to know why.
Basically put, you're a lying, agenda driven idiot.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:36 am to timbo
quote:
Since 2020, in the regular season they've played
Florida State, twice
USC, four times
Ohio State, twice
Clemson, three times
North Carolina, three times
Wisconsin
Over the next four years they will play
Texas A&M, twice
Florida State, twice
USC, three times
Wisconsin
North Carolina, twice
Miami
2020
10-2 Clemson
8-4 UNC
Clemson was okay, but the 2nd best team had a mediocre season.
2021
13-1 Cincinnati
Your best was a 1 loss G5 team?
2022
11-2 Ohio St
11-3 Clemson
11-3 USC
This is the only season where they played true competition
2023
11-2 Ohio St
10-4 Louisville
9-4 NC St
9-4 Clemson
Louisville, NC St, and Clemson would have been destroyed in the SEC. Ohio St was at best equal to Mizzou.
You can't throw up names and call it a good schedule. There is a reason why these teams field a 0-1 loss team only to be bitch slapped in the playoffs.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:38 am to hsgeoboy
quote:So you're just as retarded as him I presume?
This is a good question but you are confronting a conflated LSU superiority (esp to ND which is particularly hated for idk why) which hurts egos and therefore equals downvotes. Notre Dame can very clearly recruit talent and some years even better LSU, even tho tigers still have a recruiting edge in general
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 1:38 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:34 am to TN Tygah
quote:
But they’re dead even for 2024, and they have 10 4 stars for 2025. I thought academic standards were too high, weather was too cold, whatever, for the quality players to commit in large amounts. Not a troll bitter post, just a little confused here. It’s about $$ obviously but still, BK left because LSU “gets better players”. Thoughts? Edit: I’m not a fricking troll (except for Bama and Missouri). I’m an LSU fan and it’s pretty obvious if you read my posts. There are not enough ND fans here or else I’d troll them too. I expected some DV’s but damn.
Either a troll or a complete idiot. You must be the type of guy that if given the chance to date a supermodel would pass on her because she has a small mole on her little toe. What was the point of this post? We have the number 1 recruiting class for 2025 but you post this dribble.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:44 pm to LSUDad
It is my understanding that one needs at least a 23 on the ACT to play football at Notre Dame?
This seems like a high bar for many top level players.
Can anyone confirm?
This seems like a high bar for many top level players.
Can anyone confirm?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 9:59 pm to tharrington
That was definitely the case years ago. Not sure about now. One of the “work arounds” for student athletes who struggle academically is to take core classes at St Mary’s College next door.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:24 am to hsgeoboy
quote:
. Notre Dame can very clearly recruit talent and some years even better LSU
When has this happened in recent history?
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:40 am to TN Tygah
The longer this thread goes on the more obvious it is that you are not an LSU fan. Just go ahead and out yourself now. Aggie? Gump? SadUCFKnight??
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