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re: Recruiting has gone down, 3 star will absolutely not bring home a Nati

Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:22 am to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36569 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:22 am to
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I'm personally sick of the people who think stars don't matter because it absolutely 100% does matter.


Oh, okay. Well frick you then.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14110 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:29 am to
Way too many ignorant jackasses on this board. He's either a troll or needs to find another hobby, b/c his recruiting knowledge might be past the point of repair.
Posted by SupermanSlim
Member since Jan 2018
698 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:04 am to
LSU had the 15th ranked class in 2018. 11 of those recruits went of to play in the NFL.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1936 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:14 am to
What none of these rankings numbers can calibrate are what's happening in the discussions between the recruits and coaches. They also can't calibrate what happens in the locker room. They also can't calibrate how the recruit meshes with the other recruits and existing talent. I'm pretty sure they don't have an ability to assess a recruits motor.
Posted by Beached Tiger
Member since Aug 2007
689 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:54 am to
I'd bet a beer that our 2019 national champs DID NOT have a boatload of 5 star recruits.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9444 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

I'd bet a beer that our 2019 national champs DID NOT have a boatload of 5 star recruits.


13 5 stars from 2015-2019 HS recruiting

5 since
Posted by Beached Tiger
Member since Aug 2007
689 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:49 pm to
How many 5 stars on the 2019 team, smarty pants? Bet it wasn't a boatload. My reply was ON the team in 2019.
Posted by Rizer_J
NW LA
Member since May 2018
272 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:28 pm to
I am aware of Bayou Traditions, but it is not set up in the same as some of the other schools. Places like Georgia and Bama skirt that line of running a collective as an almost sort of shell company masquerading as a collective, which then becomes a school paying for play. Bayou Traditions is more set up as a collective with a primary source of corporate sponsors who are then connected with athletes to provide NIL dollars. That has been my point - LSU has been trying to do things the right way, especially since we have had the spotlight on us from the NCAA lately. Others have thrown caution to the wind and are essentially daring the NCAA to say something. It's just a matter of time before the lid comes off NIL completely, and LSU joins the Bamas, Georgias, FSUs in order to help get those top tier athletes to add to our current hauls. It's going to be interesting over the next year or so, that's for sure.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36569 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

13 5 stars from 2015-2019 HS recruiting


2015:
-5 star Kevin Toliver II, not on 2019 team
-5 star Tyron Johnson, transferred out after 1 season

2016:
-5 star Kristian Fulton
-5 star Rashard Lawrence
-5 star Ed Alexander, not on 2019 team

2017:
-5 star JaCoby Stevens

2018:
-5 star Terrace Marshall

2019:
-5 star Derek Stingley
-5 star John Emery Jr.
-5 star Marcel Brooks

That's 10 total 5 stars. 7 were on the 2019 team.


2020:
-5 star Arik Gilbert, transferred out
-5 star Eli Ricks, transferred out
-5 star Kayshon Boutte

2021
-5 star Maason Smith

2022
-5 star Harold Perkins

2023
-5 star Zalance Heard

That's 6 since.


ETA: On3 rankings
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22196 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 2:42 pm to
The dumbest part about OP is that LSU has 18 4 stars committed. Not that I care about the star gazers, but a handful of 3 stars isn’t going to ruin this class, and we are more likely to find a couple diamonds.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36569 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:25 pm to
I mean, look, if you wanna say this class lacks star power, that's fine. It's wrong, but fine, whatever.

But to say this is a bad class and that it's unacceptable for LSU to ever have a 12th ranked class is absolutely a bad and stupid opinion.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4691 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Yet the team score moves with the addition of each commitment, even after 17 commitments.

Again, only the top 17. Not the first 17
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
896 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:39 pm to
Damn is it over, did I miss something? I thought wasn’t over until February. How did I miss the signing date?
Posted by Tiger987
Member since Nov 2021
961 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Did he become a better player when some internet website moved his rating from 3 to 4 star?


Man we need a sticky for this for the crazies on here.
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
209 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:03 pm to
Tell me you read the advocate without telling me you read the advocate. Never thought I’d say this. But stop posting grandpa
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
209 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:10 pm to
Hey you complete idiot….please stop
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:04 am to
quote:

What none of these rankings numbers can calibrate are what's happening in the discussions between the recruits and coaches. They also can't calibrate what happens in the locker room. They also can't calibrate how the recruit meshes with the other recruits and existing talent. I'm pretty sure they don't have an ability to assess a recruits motor.


A good way to assess 3 star recruits is their offer lists. Guys who camp at a school or show real potential to develop will get offers from bigger P5 programs. So here are our 3 star commits offers (according to On3):

Ory Williams (OL)- Texas, A&M, UF

Kahyree Lee (OL)- State, OM, FSU, Texas

PJ Woodland (CB)- OM, Tulane, Texas, Auburn

De'Myrion Johnson (DL)- Okie St, A&M, Bama, UF

Shone Washington (DL)- OM, State, Arkansas, Colorado

Ahamad Breaux (DL)- LA Tech, OM, Grambling, Mizzou

Bernard Causey (CB)- Illinois, Nebraska, OM, Texas Tech

Wallace Foster (CB)- Tulane, State, FSU, UF

Joseph Cryer (OL)- OM, Okie St, Mizzou, Nebraska

We all know that not all of these offers were commitable. However, the lists still show the level of interest that a recruit has drawn. If multiple SEC teams and top P5 programs are looking at them, then you know you have a prospect who other respected staffs also see something in.

Some of these offer lists are very strong. But I can’t lie. There are two or three that definitely have reach potential. In the case of Causey, it’s a position of great need. In the case of Cryer, sometimes you have to trust your coaching staff. Based on the success Brad Davis has had, if he sees potential, then I trust his evaluation.

It’s also interesting to note some of the programs that others may scoff at or ignore. For example, I don’t see a Tulane offer as a bad thing at all. Their defense has been incredibly solid and has held up well against P5 competition the last two years.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 12:10 am
Posted by LouisianaSavage69
Member since Nov 2021
74 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:12 am to
This post is the sad truth that no one wants to hear
Posted by Lark225
Member since Mar 2019
1135 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 2:44 am to
Facts...lsu needs more star power
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6220 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 6:28 am to
17 total posts. I wonder if any of them were good.
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