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On3 Ratings
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:31 am
Fraudulent On3 BS
Can someone explain the math that has ND and Arkansas in front of us? Look at the numbers. Transfers in and out favor us and player rating are us too
Can someone explain the math that has ND and Arkansas in front of us? Look at the numbers. Transfers in and out favor us and player rating are us too
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:34 am to Robcrzy
i already wasted 5 minutes last week trying to understand it.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:35 am to Robcrzy
Higher number transfer out (Avg. P) is bad, that means you lost more talent
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:36 am to Fuzzy Dunlop
In theory
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:39 am to Fuzzy Dunlop
Except they rated players like curne higher based on nothing but HS rankings. It's all bullshite
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:40 am to Robcrzy
its a weird way to rate things considering we know more than their HS rating after they played in college.
My understanding is if you have two similarly high school ranked players from a few years ago. One didn't pan out and you want him to leave your school and another who became a star and you sign him to transfer in. The On3 rankings will look at that as a wash.
It seems like a very dumb system.
My understanding is if you have two similarly high school ranked players from a few years ago. One didn't pan out and you want him to leave your school and another who became a star and you sign him to transfer in. The On3 rankings will look at that as a wash.
It seems like a very dumb system.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:42 am to Veritas
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In theory
What does that even mean? Unless you can see into the future, a theory is as good as it gets, better than a WAG.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:43 am to Robcrzy
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On3's Team Transfer Portal Index utilizes the On3 (P)erformance score to measure a team’s production during the transfer process, compared relative against its roster and not a comparison against other schools. This proprietary algorithm determines if a school has improved its overall team talent, stayed the same, or declined in talent during the transfer window.
Essentially, it looks like their formula has calculated the average rating of the transfers IN for LSU only slightly outweighs the average of the transfers OUT. Almost in a sense that LSU is breaking even in that the guys they are bringing in, on the whole, are not significantly better than the guys they are losing.
FWIW, LSU was #2 in these rankings last season. Indiana was #13. Coaching still matters. Give Kiffin this year's LSU team and I suspect he does FAR better than Kelly's staff. On the flip side, give Kelly's staff OM's team this year and I bet OM does far worse.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:44 am to Robcrzy
None of it matters. Wins on the field are the only thing that counts.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:45 am to Robcrzy
I’m assuming because they have a larger gap between player in and player out. Essentially saying how much better your team got. But it’s a horrible way to look at it
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:48 am to Robcrzy
From the link you posted:
Most people aren’t going to bother reading the explanation of their methodology so you end up with confusion.
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On3's Team Transfer Portal Index utilizes the On3 (P)erformance score to measure a team’s production during the transfer process, compared relative against its roster and not a comparison against other schools. This proprietary algorithm determines if a school has improved its overall team talent, stayed the same, or declined in talent during the transfer window.
Most people aren’t going to bother reading the explanation of their methodology so you end up with confusion.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:51 am to dagrippa
I wasted even more time trying to figure it out.
Went through and took the average of their “transfer rating” for the guys we are brining in. It’s absolutely no where close to our “performance rating”
Can’t find a performance rating anywhere so I really think they go on feelings and emotions to make these rankings.
Either way doesn’t matter as another poster pointed out it matters how they play on the field and how the coach can bring them together
Went through and took the average of their “transfer rating” for the guys we are brining in. It’s absolutely no where close to our “performance rating”
Can’t find a performance rating anywhere so I really think they go on feelings and emotions to make these rankings.
Either way doesn’t matter as another poster pointed out it matters how they play on the field and how the coach can bring them together
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:52 am to Robcrzy
The way On3 does it is if one team has 1 player who is 98 avg come in and another team has 5 players come in and all avg are 97. Then the team with 1 player is better than 5 players because avg is larger.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:53 am to Robcrzy
Who cares? Are we happy with our changes? Hell yes.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:54 am to mdomingue
It is an "algorithm" based on how much the team improved over last year based on transfers in and out
So a shite team like Are-can-sis that was shite, and be highly rated because they improved themselves a greater amount than a more talented team like LSU did
Arkansas went from 50 to 65, 15 jump, but lsu only went from 85 to 90
That is how I understood it and it could be 100% wrong
So a shite team like Are-can-sis that was shite, and be highly rated because they improved themselves a greater amount than a more talented team like LSU did
Arkansas went from 50 to 65, 15 jump, but lsu only went from 85 to 90
That is how I understood it and it could be 100% wrong
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:56 am to GeauxTigersNC
The big question is:
Was anyone on a particular team poached by someone else or simply that the team wanted to keep?
In our case, I really can't think of anyone that was poached from us, rather us reassessing their value relative to our needs or their financial wants.
We lost a couple of OL I might have wanted to keep, but we don't know if the staff simply said beat rocks as your production wasn't good or not for their requested salary.
Was anyone on a particular team poached by someone else or simply that the team wanted to keep?
In our case, I really can't think of anyone that was poached from us, rather us reassessing their value relative to our needs or their financial wants.
We lost a couple of OL I might have wanted to keep, but we don't know if the staff simply said beat rocks as your production wasn't good or not for their requested salary.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:02 am to Robcrzy
They are trying to give a net transfer portal ranking which would be nice. Problem is they have very little to go on unless the incoming or outgoing player has played a lot.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:05 am to Robcrzy
They penalize for transfers out but don't for guys leaving early for the NFL or graduating.
Van Buren going to UCF goes against Levet coming in, but Chamblis being out of eligibility doesn't go against Knight going to Ole Miss.
Van Buren going to UCF goes against Levet coming in, but Chamblis being out of eligibility doesn't go against Knight going to Ole Miss.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:07 am to Adajax
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None of it matters. Wins on the field are the only thing that counts.
exactly. I dont know why anyone would click on that.
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:12 am to Robcrzy
The ratings of their HS players leaves s lot to be desired. You get a higher rating depending on who you sign with. And they pass it on to the portal ratings.
Who gives the ratings? What are their credentials?
Did they sit down and do a thorough evaluation of each player in the portal?
You get my drift. They know very little about
Who gives the ratings? What are their credentials?
Did they sit down and do a thorough evaluation of each player in the portal?
You get my drift. They know very little about
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