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re: LSU picked to land Center Braelin Moore from Virginia Tech

Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:25 am to
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160391 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:25 am to
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s he any good?


his name isn't chester so that's a start
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
32875 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:28 am to
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Chester was 149th/151 with a 49.0 overall grade
Braelin Moore was 46th/151 with a 69.6 overall grade



Ya, Id say this is a huge get.

Move Chester to guard or tackle and see if he can make a comeback.

ETA: A center can not allow this to happen.

This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by TigerGrad03
Member since Dec 2024
177 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:30 am to
This is the type of portal activity we need. A starting center from a P4 that is built more like a center with his frame. Move Chester over to guard and watch him blossom.

C - Moore/Echols
G - Chester
G - Mubinga
T - Adams
T - ?
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
1709 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:32 am to
How many other starting centers were freshmen? It doesn't matter if he were ll SEC Freshman if there were no or few others.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70747 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:33 am to
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What center anywhere has an outstanding first year starting? Last year i believe he split time in practice between guard and center and he is fricking 6’6 I believe, any center that big has some trouble it’s a position for short smaller and quick guys, and those don’t always translate well against tougher competition



Chester could be a good player down the line but there's also a big difference in "outstanding" and even "competent". Chester wasn't even competent this year and that was the problem. A sub 50 PFF grade is awful, ranking 149th/151 centers is awful. Picking up THIRTEEN penalties, most of them all pre-snap for a center is awful.

Only 1 center in the entire country had more penalties than Chester.

Only 6 centers in the entire country gave up more QB pressures than Chester.

Only 3 centers in the entire country had a worse run block grade than Chester.

Chester was terrible at everything.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 9:35 am
Posted by dennistracy
Washington, DC
Member since Jun 2004
929 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:34 am to
@Luziana - thanks for sharing that video. I liked the way he looked on running plays. Has good feet and like the way he gets to the second level.

There were some blitz pickups that the line seemed to get their wires crossed but he held up well in 1 on 1's. I saw one play where he lost his footing and gave up a pressure on a blitz.

Either way, a seasoned starter adds depth and competition and the unit as a whole is better with this player.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44032 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:36 am to
Yuge
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2051 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:36 am to
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Look, I rarely shyt on players and I'm not speaking ill of Chester but the kid struggled MIGHTILY all season and looked completely overwhelmed at times. He made All-Freshman by default because he was the only starting center in the SEC.
Can he improve? Absolutely, and I full expect that he will. I also, like many others, think moving him to guard would benefit everyone

First, ANY center has a tough job. Obviously, they can't move the ball (see Chester's penalties ). Also, if no one is lined over them, they have to try to figure out which DT to help out on. I remember almost no bad snaps by Chester. Centers also usually call out the blocking scheme for a play. I do remember him not helping out on the correct rusher. Moore in the Vandy game had the same issue BTW. Moore looked decent IMO but not great..I liked how quick he was and many times a rusher would have a running start on the play and it was like the guy hit a stone wall.

BTW, for the poster or two who thought he played OG, he is #61 and played center on every play in that Vandy video. I also liked the fact that he was supposedly a medium 3* out of HS and now rated a low 4*. 247 Sports seem to mostly lower a player's rating from HS to transfer....not here. My own AMATEUR appraisal...potential starter for LSU either at C or OG. Compare him to Chester in practice. I do like Chester more than most here. Someone said he was the worst center in LSU football history. Uh, how many FR or RS FR have started for LSU at the C position.
Posted by GeauxVU
Member since Jan 2022
1460 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:40 am to
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C - Moore/Echols G - Chester G - Mubinga T - Adams T - ?


IMO Mubenga shouldn’t be anywhere near the field. Let Chester, Curne, Solomon Thomas + a potential transfer fight for the G spots.

T should be Adams and Weston Davis, unless we take a transfer there too (Ory Williams and Ethan Calloway are the backups).
Posted by OU812
Eaton Rapids, Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13180 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:42 am to
Chester to the bench
Posted by docTQ4
Atlanta GA
Member since Jan 2014
1806 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:48 am to
I don’t care what team he made. The dude is not good.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70747 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:50 am to
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Someone said he was the worst center in LSU football history. Uh, how many FR or RS FR have started for LSU at the C position.


I backed up a lot of what I said with facts, please see previous posts. Again, Chester literally did nothing even below average this season. He was terrible at run blocking, he was terrible at pass blocking and he picked up the 2nd most penalties of any center in the entire country.

As far back as PFF grades guys, nobody comes close to him at the center position at LSU. He was beyond terrible.

This isnt to say he cant get better, but the facts are the facts of what just happened this season. He couldnt do anything even below average.

PFF grades of every center in the history of their grades:
2024 Chester - 49.0
2023 Charles Turner - 66.6
2022 Turner - 62.5
2021 Liam Shanahan - 65.5
2020 Shanahan - 68.2
2019 Lloyd Cushenberry - 61.1
2018 Cushenberry - 77.1
2017 Will Clapp - 79.7
2016 Ethan Pocic - 81.3
2015 Pocic - 79.7
2014 Elliott Porter - 57.3 [Pocic started 5 games at center, Porter started 9]

Literally no one close to as bad as Chester was this year.

Pocic started 5 games at center in his 2nd year here and was very good.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
57507 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:51 am to
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This can't be true. All I've been seeing the last few days is how CBK isn't "being aggressive" enough. No way we land one of the best IOL in the portal.


This cool to say once the kid commits and is on campus

LSU and CBK have been “picked” to do a lot of shite that CBK dropped the ball on
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34608 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:57 am to
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IMO Mubenga shouldn’t be anywhere near the field.


Mubenga looked solid as a redshirt freshman vs a good OU defense in what-his 3rd start?


At some point you have to allow some guys to develop too.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
DC
Member since Dec 2008
8025 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:59 am to
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Moore PFF Grade vs. Vandy - 65.8
Chester PFF grade vs. Vandy - 58.3 (One of his top 3 games, sadly)


That looks good but please compare their competition. Moore went up against 3 respectable defensive front 7's this year and Vandy was one of them.

I'm not saying he can't turn out to be the answer, but I think some of you are just excited at a potential commitment no matter how good they are. Hope he proves me wrong. I think the incoming freshman is more talented than both.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70747 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:03 am to
quote:

That looks good but please compare their competition.


quote:

Moore PFF Grade vs. Vandy - 65.8
Chester PFF grade vs. Vandy - 58.3 (One of his top 3 games, sadly)


Literally the exact same team.

VT also played Clemson, Miami, Duke, Cuse, GT and one of the top mid-majors in Marshall

Dont use the competition angle - PFF adjusts for competition as well in their overall grade for a season. 69 for Moore, 49 for Chester. He played plenty of solid to good competition. He was simply WAY better than Chester. Again, the facts are the facts, Chester was one of the worst centers in the entire country. Moore was WAY better.

Why do you think they coaches clearly just prioritized a center in the portal despite that being the 1 returning starter on the OLine? They want ot get Chester out of center, he just had one of the worst seasons at center in LSU history.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 10:04 am
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11448 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:04 am to
I hate to tell you, but all first time starters are going to have growing pains on the OL. The increased physicality is enough to overwhelm them at times, but the mental aspect is usually a lot more complicated than anything they saw in high school. Alan Faneca, Whitworth, and Will Campbell all struggled at times during their first season starting in college. Experience is by far the best teacher.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284804 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:15 am to
Chester is too tall to be a center
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70747 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:17 am to
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Chester is too tall to be a center



Pocic wasnt
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
11251 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:30 am to
LT - Weston Davis
LG - Coen Echols
C - Braelin Moore
RG - DJ Chester
RT - Tyree Adams

Bordelon Bros, Mubenga, Solomon Thomas, & Carius Curne as backups/subs

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