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re: LSU Baseball 2024 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread OLD THREAD
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:42 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:42 am to thunderbird1100
If Stanfield jumps to MLB, I would be very surprised if Curiel isn't your starting center fielder.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:46 am to Metaloctopus
I think the roster is in good shape right now. I agree that with the catcher position they will likely see what happens with Arrambide. I think he will make it to campus and they probably pass on another catcher from the portal. Especially a catcher type like Nolan Wilson who really hasn't caught many games in the last 2 years.
From my count the roster is at 54/40 right now when subtracting all portal players and adding all incoming portal players and incoming recruits. When you subtract the definite draft guys like Tommy White, Luke Holman, Griffin, Caminit, etc I would put the count at 47/40. Of course they will have 50/50 type guys go also like Jared Jones, Herring, and some of the other high school recruits. Will have a lot better understanding of the roster after the draft next week.
From my count the roster is at 54/40 right now when subtracting all portal players and adding all incoming portal players and incoming recruits. When you subtract the definite draft guys like Tommy White, Luke Holman, Griffin, Caminit, etc I would put the count at 47/40. Of course they will have 50/50 type guys go also like Jared Jones, Herring, and some of the other high school recruits. Will have a lot better understanding of the roster after the draft next week.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:58 am to ccox11
quote:Pretty bold statement there:
No freshman is holding down any spot from day 1 ever.
- Antoine Duplantis 2016
- Josh Smith 2017
- Jake Slaughter 2017
- Eric Walker 2017
- Daniel Cabrera 2018
- Landon Marceaux 2019
- Cole Henry 2019
- Case Beloso 2019
- Cade Doughty 2020
- Alex Milazzo 2020
- Dylan Crews 2021
- Jordan Thompson 2021
- Tre Morgan 2021
- Josh Pearson 2022
Literally almost averaging 2 everyday/day 1 freshmen starters per year.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:01 am to BayTiger13
Currently looking at the pitchers we can reasonably expect to get to campus, I'm seeing 20 names. We could lose 2-5 of those names if something weird happens with the draft.
Here's how a I break down potential roles, obviously they won't all pan out this way. These are ceilings. I think guys could slide down, but not really up.
Potential starters that could get you 5 innings reliably with a random 7 or 8 thrown in there:
Anderson
Mayers
Eyanson
Cowan (DE)
Herring (DE)
Hayden (DE)
Long relief/piggy back guys that can go 3-5 and spot start:
Sheerin
Ware (coming off injury, DE)
Rizy (DE)
Shores (coming off injury)
Guys that can throw multiple times in a weekend and possibly go multiple innings in one outing:
Guidry (DE)
Dorsey
Primeaux
Benge
1+ inning guys:
Noot (coming off injury)
Victorian (DE)
Evans (DE)
1 random inning here and there:
Woods (coming off injury)
Thompson
Lape (Coming off injury)
I didn't include Caminiti, Schmidt, or Bateman because I don't think they're coming to school.
Here's how a I break down potential roles, obviously they won't all pan out this way. These are ceilings. I think guys could slide down, but not really up.
Potential starters that could get you 5 innings reliably with a random 7 or 8 thrown in there:
Anderson
Mayers
Eyanson
Cowan (DE)
Herring (DE)
Hayden (DE)
Long relief/piggy back guys that can go 3-5 and spot start:
Sheerin
Ware (coming off injury, DE)
Rizy (DE)
Shores (coming off injury)
Guys that can throw multiple times in a weekend and possibly go multiple innings in one outing:
Guidry (DE)
Dorsey
Primeaux
Benge
1+ inning guys:
Noot (coming off injury)
Victorian (DE)
Evans (DE)
1 random inning here and there:
Woods (coming off injury)
Thompson
Lape (Coming off injury)
I didn't include Caminiti, Schmidt, or Bateman because I don't think they're coming to school.
This post was edited on 7/11/24 at 9:02 am
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:12 am to ProjectP2294
I guess there is no way to tell because he has been injured since getting on campus, but I wonder if Lape is going to be PO or if he will still get some work at 3B. LSU website has him listed as a RHP but also talks about all his rankings as a 3B. Assuming he is back healthy, I guess we will find out during the fall. Likely PO if I had to guess.
I guess the same conversation could be had about Dylan Thompson also.
I guess the same conversation could be had about Dylan Thompson also.
This post was edited on 7/11/24 at 9:14 am
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:15 am to Tifway419
quote:
Pretty bold statement there:
- Antoine Duplantis 2016
- Josh Smith 2017
- Jake Slaughter 2017
- Eric Walker 2017
- Daniel Cabrera 2018
- Landon Marceaux 2019
- Cole Henry 2019
- Case Beloso 2019
- Cade Doughty 2020
- Alex Milazzo 2020
- Dylan Crews 2021
- Jordan Thompson 2021
- Tre Morgan 2021
- Josh Pearson 2022
Not to mention that Monster literally took over like a week in.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:25 am to Hester Carries
the portal era is making it much more difficult for fr to come in and start right away
you had to count on fr in the past without free agency in play today
you had to count on fr in the past without free agency in play today
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:42 am to nicholastiger
See that's not bad because it allows the coach to see "who does or does not have IT" I understand the development part that Jay spoke on and how players aren't as patient.
Some will stay and maybe will breakthrough and a large section will probably leave. I mean Larson, Anderson, Milam and Brown isn't a bad haul from that last class. Hopefully at least 4 players in this class can breakthrough this year.
Some will stay and maybe will breakthrough and a large section will probably leave. I mean Larson, Anderson, Milam and Brown isn't a bad haul from that last class. Hopefully at least 4 players in this class can breakthrough this year.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:48 am to Hester Carries
quote:
Not to mention that Monster literally took over like a week in.
There are freshmen starters
And there are freshmen that people think will start all offseason because they are ranked high.
You don’t know until they play. Most do not have what it takes to start as freshmen. So why assume one will start right now
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:55 am to ProjectP2294
quote:
These are ceilings. I think guys could slide down, but not really up.
Potential starters that could get you 5 innings reliably with a random 7 or 8 thrown in there:
Anderson
Mayers
Eyanson
Cowan (DE)
Herring (DE)
Hayden (DE)
Long relief/piggy back guys that can go 3-5 and spot start:
Sheerin
Ware (coming off injury, DE)
Rizy (DE)
Shores (coming off injury)
Has Shores had a setback? He should be good to start next year. His injury timeline is almost exactly a year behind Jump's.
Jump was injured himself in late April 2022 and was starting for LSU 22 months later.
Shores injured himself on 3/31/2023. He was throwing live bullpens last month.
quote:
from June 11Johnson also provided an update on injured pitcher Chase Shores. Shores started four games for LSU during his freshman season and made three SEC appearances before being sidelined by an elbow injury on March 31 and redshirting. He underwent Tommy John surgery afterwards and didn’t make an appearance during the 2024 season.
“To win 43 games and lose a talent like that and not have him available, again major hat tip to our team,” Johnson said. “He’s rolling pretty good. Was throwing a live bullpen the other day.”
Johnson said Shores fastball was up to 97.7 miles per hour and his sliders have improved. Getting Shores back would be a major boost to LSU’s pitching rotation. The 6-foot-8 right hander posted a 1.96 ERA in 18.1 innings pitched in 2023.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:56 am to Lester Earl
I think it was because someone said freshmen are not day 1 starters ever. It’s fine to assume Curiel will start in CF if Stanfield goes pro, nothing wrong with playing hypotheticals on a message board. You’re right though that we won’t know until the lineup card comes out on opening day.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:01 am to Tifway419
quote:
I think it was because someone said freshmen are not day 1
I think some people take the “day 1” thing too literal too. That first lineup is pretty irrelevant. Like someone else mentioned, Will Hellmers started 3rd base to open a season and had one of the worst performances you’ll ever see at this level. Settling into the lineup as an everyday guy before SEC play could pretty much have you labeled as a “Day 1” guy.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:07 am to Tigerfan14
Jake Brown was also a Day 1 guy as a freshmen.
obviously we were rotating guys pretty heavily early on but he was opening day starter
obviously we were rotating guys pretty heavily early on but he was opening day starter
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:33 am to Tifway419
I would dispute quite a bit of that list but I don't really care. There's also semantics into the phrase holding down a spot. Some of those guys weren't good as freshmen. To me, that isn't holding down a spot. I don't care if you start every game. I also wasn't even talking about pitchers. Although again some of them weren't great, some of them didn't play the whole season. Also, day 1 to me means first day they step on campus, not 1st game of the season. Sure, a lot of freshmen emerge during fall practice. That's my whole point. Quit penciling in guys that have never had 1 college practice.
What's the list of guys who were starters day 1 of the fall semester, started every game, and produced stats that you would want out of a starter? That's my point. In comparison, how many highly ranked recruits came who everybody acted like was going to be a day 1 star who don't fit that description? That's my point.
What's the list of guys who were starters day 1 of the fall semester, started every game, and produced stats that you would want out of a starter? That's my point. In comparison, how many highly ranked recruits came who everybody acted like was going to be a day 1 star who don't fit that description? That's my point.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:35 am to SammyTiger
Just went look at the box scores for team USA collegiate team to see how Eyanson and Dickenson did there.
Eyanson:
2.1 IP
4K/2BB
1H
1ER
Dickenson:
4-24
1 double
5 runs scored
3 stolen bases (1 caught stealing)
5K/0BB
Played 4 games at 2B and 2 games at 3B
Milam played in 1 of the trial games and went 0-0 with 2 BBs and 1 run scored.
Eyanson:
2.1 IP
4K/2BB
1H
1ER
Dickenson:
4-24
1 double
5 runs scored
3 stolen bases (1 caught stealing)
5K/0BB
Played 4 games at 2B and 2 games at 3B
Milam played in 1 of the trial games and went 0-0 with 2 BBs and 1 run scored.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:36 am to Tifway419
quote:
think it was because someone said freshmen are not day 1 starters ever.
If you read his whole paragraph that wasn’t exactly the context
For every Stevan Milam there are Paxton klings, Brady Neal’s, mo Hamptons, and cam Johnson’s. Rankings do not really mean Jack shite until you strap them up & prove yourself.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:42 am to Lester Earl
Fun fact: Anthony Eyanson is 3 months younger than Kade Anderson.
He's young enough that if he graduated a year later, he would not have been a draft eligible sophomore.
He's young enough that if he graduated a year later, he would not have been a draft eligible sophomore.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:50 am to ProjectP2294
Liberty's head coach just resigned. Opens up another roster for the portal.
I haven't looked to see if there is anyone worthwhile there, but also our spots a slim.
This also doesn't seem to be a job that will be much of a domino.
I haven't looked to see if there is anyone worthwhile there, but also our spots a slim.
This also doesn't seem to be a job that will be much of a domino.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:56 am to ProjectP2294
They have a pretty good soph catcher
Brayden Horton is his name
.280 11 HRs 39 RBI .976 fielding percentage
Brayden Horton is his name
.280 11 HRs 39 RBI .976 fielding percentage
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:00 am to ProjectP2294
quote:
Liberty's head coach just resigned. Opens up another roster for the portal.
LINK
3rd base looks like he has potential
This post was edited on 7/11/24 at 11:03 am
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