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Interesting article from 247 re: high school recruiting rankings of Super Bowl rosters
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:12 pm
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:30 pm to Lilqueeviewonder
Hard work beats talent, if you have both your just lucky as frick
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:34 pm to Lilqueeviewonder
You have to consider, there are a lot more 3 star, 2 star, and UR players out there compared to only 32 5 stars per class. So, having seven 5 star players and nearly 30 4 star players says a lot.
Also, a lot of these UR players went to MAC schools and were standouts on their teams, which helped get them noticed and drafted.
Also, a lot of these UR players went to MAC schools and were standouts on their teams, which helped get them noticed and drafted.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:43 pm to Lilqueeviewonder
There are only 32 five stars each season. The recruiting websites are pretty damn good with their hit rates.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:54 pm to Lilqueeviewonder
72 - 3, 2 & unrated recruits out of 106 total, 14 unrated
to 7 - 5*? Mostly 3 star(42) I don't think that supports your statement, just my opinion.
to 7 - 5*? Mostly 3 star(42) I don't think that supports your statement, just my opinion.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:04 pm to tallamander34
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Hard work beats talent, if you have both your just lucky as frick
Hard work isn’t luck.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:21 pm to tenderfoot tigah
They are. But notice that most of the 5* are on defense especially the front 7. That is mostly were national championships are won and programs sustained.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:45 pm to Lilqueeviewonder
You should read into recruiting rankings and national championships
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:57 pm to Lilqueeviewonder
There are like 10x as many 3* as there are 4 and 5* lol. Idk why it’s so hard for people to understand this math
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:13 pm to 304tiger
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.Also, a lot of these UR players went to MAC schools and were standouts on their teams, which helped get them noticed and drafted.
Are you implying that some of these never would have played in the NFL if they didn’t play at a MAC school? That’s pretty dumb. If they’re the most talented players, they’ll find their way into the NFL no matter which school they’re at.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:01 am to LifeAquatic
It’s easy math but I will take a 3 star from Edna Karr over a 4 star from Minnesota any day of the week. I would be willing to bet that most of the successful 3 star- UR players that are successful come from the South. Finding those diamonds in the rough like Justin Jefferson or the honey badger to add with the 5 star an 4 star recruits is what sets a team over the top. We are very fortunate to sit amongst all this in state talent.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:00 am to Lilqueeviewonder
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Reinforces that stars are relevant, but trust the coaches.
How does that reinforce that stars are relevant?
It says 72 players in the Super Bowl were 3 star, 2 star, and 14 of those players were unranked. That tells me they missed on many players because any players NFL rosters are the elite of the elite!
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:21 am to Lilqueeviewonder
Saban won more because he had the best talent
Same with Kirby
Same with Kirby
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:29 am to 304tiger
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You have to consider, there are a lot more 3 star, 2 star, and UR players out there compared to only 32 5 stars per class. So, having seven 5 star players and nearly 30 4 star players says a lot.
I’m convinced the “stars don’t matter” mindset is just a way for people to cope with missing out on highly ranked kids. It’s funny how when we land a 5*, they are going to be the greatest to ever play, but when we miss, stars don’t matter.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:37 am to Tiger987
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72 - 3, 2 & unrated recruits out of 106 total, 14 unrated to 7 - 5*? Mostly 3 star(42) I don't think that supports your statement, just my opinion.
So between a 6-7% five star percentage when only about .01% of the recruits gets rated five star. That’s a significant jump. If stars did not matter then there’d be 0-1 five star in the Super Bowl.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:48 am to Tiger987
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72 - 3, 2 & unrated recruits out of 106 total, 14 unrated
to 7 - 5*? Mostly 3 star(42) I don't think that supports your statement, just my opinion
You don't understand very basic math. That's not just my opinion. It's a fact, based off of the evidence above.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:19 am to vidtiger23
It’s also like some people don’t realize that even coaches and GM’s miss on evals. Every year there are several first and second round picks that end up being trash. There are really good players drafted late. Does that mean first round picks are irrelevant?
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:15 am to Lilqueeviewonder
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Reinforces that stars are relevant, but trust the coaches.
I see what you're saying, but I think the most impressive stat was 30 of the players were ranked 2-stars or less.
As a fan, we all want 4.5 stars on our team's roster, but it clearly shows how many great players are getting overlooked every year!
Personally, I think stars mean very little overall in the current state of college football. The most important thing in recruiting now is, do you have enough money to land some of these players?
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:02 pm to tallamander34
If every 5 star in a 5 year span was on an active NFL roster there would still only be 160. Enough for 3 NFL teams…
So hypothetically if evenly spread out 1 in 10 players in the NFL would be a 5 star in this scenario. Or 5 for each Super Bowl team, making it 10 rather than 7 total lol.
1 year of 3 stars could fill the roster for the whole league.
There will always be more 3 stars than 5 stars on any team. The chance that a 5 star makes an NFL roster is astronomically higher than a 3 star.
So hypothetically if evenly spread out 1 in 10 players in the NFL would be a 5 star in this scenario. Or 5 for each Super Bowl team, making it 10 rather than 7 total lol.
1 year of 3 stars could fill the roster for the whole league.
There will always be more 3 stars than 5 stars on any team. The chance that a 5 star makes an NFL roster is astronomically higher than a 3 star.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:31 pm to SwampyWaters
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Personally, I think stars mean very little overall in the current state of college football.
That really hasn't shown out to be true. We already have 2 decades of recruiting service evaluations and it turns out the teams with the most 4 and 5 stars tend to do the best and produce the Most NFL players.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 4:42 pm
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