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re: IMG Academy could 'destroy our profession,'
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:48 am to tigerbru17
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:48 am to tigerbru17
quote:How? What he said doesn't even make sense. The "profession" is coaching, not winning.
I completely agree with the coach.
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:07 am to broadcaster
If you are referring that the state of LA open an IMG school, you are dreaming. First they would have to be forward thinkers to do that. Never happen. Then they would have to fund it. Never happen. Then they would have to competently manage it. Never happen.
We are living in the All Star Team, win on talent alone so I don't have to work hard or be solely responsible era of sports. This era was ushered in back when LeBron, Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade got together in Miami. It happens now with Alabama football and Kentucky Basketball. These guys that run to the "bigger, better deal" are selfish cowards. They destroy the continuity of the team they leave and are counting on them. All the "all stars" play together so they don't have to play against each other and truly have to compete. No one wants to earn anything anymore. Everyone wants it given to them. Earning it produces high character people. Something that gets more rare every day.
These sports factory schools are bad for everyone.
We are living in the All Star Team, win on talent alone so I don't have to work hard or be solely responsible era of sports. This era was ushered in back when LeBron, Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade got together in Miami. It happens now with Alabama football and Kentucky Basketball. These guys that run to the "bigger, better deal" are selfish cowards. They destroy the continuity of the team they leave and are counting on them. All the "all stars" play together so they don't have to play against each other and truly have to compete. No one wants to earn anything anymore. Everyone wants it given to them. Earning it produces high character people. Something that gets more rare every day.
These sports factory schools are bad for everyone.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:13 am to AlxTgr
quote:
The "profession" is coaching, not winning.
Agreed. Coaches tend to be far less alarmist about their "profession being destroyed" when the kid who transfers out is some second-team scrub. These kids don't "belong" to a coach or a district, and if they want to go elsewhere to seek specialized training, they have every right. If that derails some coaches dream of that perfect season, so be it. Coaches need to be big boys if they want to coach big boys.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:27 am to Da #1 Stunna
Wait, so by playing on and therefore practicing with an "elite" team = running from competition? Got it.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:39 am to blackjackjackson
According to Coach West,"It's just for years in the state of Texas we have been the advocate for our kids, where the college coaches come through and it's been a really good situation for hundreds of years." Really, for HUNDREDS of years. Hahaha
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:01 am to AlxTgr
quote:
The "profession" is coaching, not winning.
I agree with the sentimentality of this statement.
But...
These days, if you don't win, you don't get the pleasure of coaching for very long. And that includes high school. The days of the lovable high school coach who wins a handful of games but imparts great life lessons... are over. The pressure to win permeates all levels of sports now.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:38 am to SpqrTiger
quote:But everyone is in the same boat.
These days, if you don't win, you don't get the pleasure of coaching for very long. And that includes high school. The days of the lovable high school coach who wins a handful of games but imparts great life lessons... are over. The pressure to win permeates all levels of sports now.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 12:21 pm to blackjackjackson
Damn, how many kids can IMG have on a team?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 8:40 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:
IMG needs tuition paying students to survive.
No they don't. IMG Academy is a small part of multinational corporation who's core business is representation (agent). They represent sports and entertainment professionals. They put on concerts, rodeos, beauty pageants and fashion shows. They runs these sports academies in the hope they will someday represent these athletes as pros.
LINK
If you do the link and look at the second column from the right you'll see IMG Academy listed as one of multiple enterprises they are involved in.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 9:46 am to Black n Gold
I LOVE IMG as long as other schools are losing kids to them 
that's a great example of how Texas has lost sight of the purpose of high school sports, even more so than IMG... you can't fault kids for looking out for their own futures, particularly when they have a future in that sport.
but coaches are supposed to be the adults... part of sports at every level is that sometimes bad things will happen to you. sometimes you overcome them, sometimes you don't, that's life, but you as a human being are defined by the noble attempt you make to bounce back.
but if you don't think your talent should go to IMG, you'll get talent that shouldn't go to IMG
that's a great example of how Texas has lost sight of the purpose of high school sports, even more so than IMG... you can't fault kids for looking out for their own futures, particularly when they have a future in that sport.
but coaches are supposed to be the adults... part of sports at every level is that sometimes bad things will happen to you. sometimes you overcome them, sometimes you don't, that's life, but you as a human being are defined by the noble attempt you make to bounce back.
but if you don't think your talent should go to IMG, you'll get talent that shouldn't go to IMG
Posted on 2/26/16 at 10:45 am to blackjackjackson
Where was the outrage when other schools were doing it?
So elite kids want to get the best training available to further their professional careers.... Sounds like a business move.
So elite kids want to get the best training available to further their professional careers.... Sounds like a business move.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:15 pm to blackjackjackson
IMG and what it stands for sucks...in reference to athletics.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:10 pm to Cadello
quote:
So elite kids want to get the best the best training available to further their professional careers.... Sounds like a business move.
This type of thinking is exactly why our country is in the shape that it is in. A teenager is not a professional athlete. They are a teenager who plays sports that's it period. There is no business decision because the kid is not in a business and he is not a professional. They are kids just trying to figure life out and make it. They are professional athletes when they are in a professional organization that pays them money to play that sport.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:13 pm to MarioBrothers
quote:
This type of thinking is exactly why our country is in the shape that it is in
Our country is in (I assume you mean) bad shape because kids consider their future professional goals and make decisions that can further those goals in high school? That doesn't seem logical to me.
quote:
There is no business decision because the kid is not in a business and he is not a professional
All types of "business decisions are made prior to a person being in a business or proffesion. Things like selecting a major, determining which electives to take, buckling down in HS to ensure you get TOPS (if it sticks around) or scholarship opportunities.
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They are professional athletes when they are in a professional organization that pays them money to play that sport.
If they are getting free tuition, they are effectively getting paid, albeit poorly.
quote:
They are kids just trying to figure life out and make it
There is, or at least should be, a lot of truth in this. Unfortunately, for a lot of these kids, athletics presents economic opportunists they would otherwise not have and often a families hopes and dreams are placed upon these kids shoulders. I'm not altogether certain a school away from family and friends wouldn't provide welcome relief for many of these kids.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:22 pm to blackjackjackson
THSCA got hurt right in the feels.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:28 pm to minimal
I think what he means is if schools like IMG proliferate and create a group of super teams interest in local HS football will decline. Texas HS football is also structured on the premise that HS teams can't recruit.Therefore IMG is anathema to UIL rules and philosophy. The only place to which a HS athlete can transfer in TX without intense scrutiny in TX is a private school, Private schools cannot participate in the UIL competitions.
UIL (University Interscholastic League is the governing body of TX public school competition, including academic. For example they were the body that ruled against Dee Anderson participating his senior year at DeSoto High School after he had transferred to that school.
UIL (University Interscholastic League is the governing body of TX public school competition, including academic. For example they were the body that ruled against Dee Anderson participating his senior year at DeSoto High School after he had transferred to that school.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 8:49 pm to MarioBrothers
You're a moron dude. My thinking has nothing to do with the shape of our country. I didn't vote liberal.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 8:59 pm to MarioBrothers
quote:
This type of thinking is exactly why our country is in the shape that it is in. A teenager is not a professional athlete. They are a teenager who plays sports that's it period. There is no business decision because the kid is not in a business and he is not a professional. They are kids just trying to figure life out and make it. They are professional athletes when they are in a professional organization that pays them money to play that sport.
You obviously know little to nothing about the benefits of being an athlete in a major sport on scholarship. All of these kids have a special ability and all have the potential to play at the next level. If you had the opportunity for a new job that if you were successful at would result in millions would you not accept it? Furthermore, do you know the benefits if you are just an average athlete at these schools? They are substantial.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 5:23 am to Bill77379
So what you're saying is:
1. High schools in Texas don't recruit.
2. Interest in TX high school football will decline to the point that the coaching profession in the state will die because every year the top 50 TX prospects go to private academies.
I don't even...
1. High schools in Texas don't recruit.
2. Interest in TX high school football will decline to the point that the coaching profession in the state will die because every year the top 50 TX prospects go to private academies.
I don't even...
Posted on 2/28/16 at 6:45 am to tigerbru17
Is the difference between IMG and teams like Curtis and Evangel just a matter of degree?
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