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Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:18 pm
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:24 pm to The Baker
Until they sign on the dotted line I’d guess it’s not binding.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:24 pm to The Baker
Everything is fluid until signing day.
“Commits” flip all the time and sometimes minutes before they sign.
“Commits” flip all the time and sometimes minutes before they sign.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:24 pm to The Baker
A commitment is just verbal until signing day. Either side has the right to back out whenever they want
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:34 pm to The Baker
Would be the same concept has the players flipping from school to school but more frowned upon.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:58 pm to Lsutiger2424
I am sure I am wrong, but I thought the university was scholarship bound to the player. It wouldn't have to be a football scholarship but education tuition would have to be covered. They couldn't play football as they could not be on the team.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:13 pm to omegaman66
You thought right. You’re wrong.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:14 pm to omegaman66
Nope. Not bound to anything until signing. Even then it is just for one year at a time.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:15 pm to omegaman66
no. a verbal commitment is non binding for either party. nothing is official till a signed LOI is received by the university.
if you don't want a kid to sign. don't give him the paperwork to sign.
if you don't want a kid to sign. don't give him the paperwork to sign.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:36 pm to 167back
What happens when a player comitts to a school then after months decomitts. Hey, this is a business and if a school needs to make room or PROCESS a player or 2 or 3 to make room for players that are difference makers who want in it's a no brainer you do it.
And I pray that happens 3 or 4 times this year!!!
And I pray that happens 3 or 4 times this year!!!
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:22 am to LesnarF5
Yeah, I don't like it, but it is the reality at this level. That said, Coach O and this staff is straight killing it with the guys that they are bringing in. Love the way this is headed.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:17 am to Tigerguru96
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A commitment is just verbal until signing day. Either side has the right to back out whenever they want
This, which is why they call it a VERBAL. Until a LOI is signed, either party is free to do as they please.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:25 am to The Baker
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If a player accepts a commitable offer, can the school rescind without penalty?
Yeah, legally speaking, I guess the written scholarship offer is worded such that the university may rescind?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:53 am to The Baker
Is it though?
Kole Taylor is a great example. Is it not a good idea to let him know that it’s in his best interest to go somewhere else? Or should we get him on campus so he can ride pine for 2-3 years then transfer.
Ali Gaye has 2 years of eligibility. I would prefer that the coaches came fo me and said “Look we thought it was gonna work but we’ve had some other guys come on board and you’ll be much more likely to get on the field and further your career at another school, it’s nothing personal, we just want what’s best for you”
Kole Taylor is a great example. Is it not a good idea to let him know that it’s in his best interest to go somewhere else? Or should we get him on campus so he can ride pine for 2-3 years then transfer.
Ali Gaye has 2 years of eligibility. I would prefer that the coaches came fo me and said “Look we thought it was gonna work but we’ve had some other guys come on board and you’ll be much more likely to get on the field and further your career at another school, it’s nothing personal, we just want what’s best for you”
Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:39 am to Solo Cam
These are all more ethical questions than anything else, certainly not legal. It’s one thing to say “kids leave the schools high and dry all the time,” but if a school adopts that cutthroat approach as a regular practice without proper notice and communication, then their reputation will not survive.
The key is being transparent when the time is right, when it’s not too late for the kid and their coach/parents to find another suitable option. On the other hand if the school forms a habit of leaving kids without a scholarship in late Jan or early Feb, school is asking for trouble.
The key is being transparent when the time is right, when it’s not too late for the kid and their coach/parents to find another suitable option. On the other hand if the school forms a habit of leaving kids without a scholarship in late Jan or early Feb, school is asking for trouble.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:38 am to SwatMitchell
quote:There are no written scholarship offers at this point for LSU.
Yeah, legally speaking, I guess the written scholarship offer is worded such that the university may rescind?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:12 am to The Baker
Scarborough said yesterday that LSU cannot do it to La. guys. Will be interesting to watch this play out.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:15 am to AlxTgr
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Scarborough said yesterday that LSU cannot do it to La. guys. Will be interesting to watch this play out.
Cannot is a strong word...but I get it. It may not look good for getting a kid you want from a school later if you process one of their kids now.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:22 am to LSUBrown
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These are all more ethical questions than anything else, certainly not legal. It’s one thing to say “kids leave the schools high and dry all the time,” but if a school adopts that cutthroat approach as a regular practice without proper notice and communication, then their reputation will not survive
Very few elite programs have he luxury of rescinding offers. BAMA has been notorious for it and we have seen the results.
LSU has seldom pulled an offer unless there was a serious academic concern. That may change as the philosophy will now be let the chips fall where they may. Of course, its a more precarious path for Louisiana commits but not so omuch with out of state players. If they pulled an offer to a player in New Orleans or Baton Rouge it could hurt their standing throughout the city.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:26 am to omegaman66
quote:That applied only under the 'old' early financial aid promissory agreements (before the early signing period was introduced). A recruit could sign a FA agreement early, with multiple schools by the way (see Hootie), and the school... if he enrolled... was bound to provide a scholarship. The recruit was not bound to any school however.
I am sure I am wrong, but I thought the university was scholarship bound to the player. It wouldn't have to be a football scholarship but education tuition would have to be covered. They couldn't play football as they could not be on the team.
A NLI (National Letter of Intent) MUST be accompanied by a scholarship offer (in writing). If both are signed, it's a done deal. To process a player you don't send the paperwork once the period opens for a NLI OR a school can refuse the NLI/FA (refuse to countersign). That's a true 'processing'. Almost everybody tries to avoid that.
Most 'processing' is a discussion sometimes accompanied by help by coaches through networking to find a new landing spot.
ETA: 'soft processing', i.e. the discussion I mentioned, for lack of a better term, has a big benefit if done right, sometimes. If you are turning away a good player for a better player and you help them find a good landing spot you can get them out of conference/division so you don't have to play against them. It doesn't happen often, but as a coach you do try to do that.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 9:31 am
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